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  1. Reading through the responses maybe we aren't understanding your question @mikbone Where have you seen in your own life that there isn't unconditional, unwavering love from God or from Jesus Christ? Here's a few scriptures on Love. "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”—John 3:16 From the Guide to the Scriptures under the section titled Love, "The greatest example of God’s love for His children is found in the infinite Atonement of Jesus Christ." Romans 8:35-39 "35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." I see the WHOLE Plan of Salvation as the biggest expression of Love God can offer to anyone. He sent His Son to die for all of us. We're all imperfect children yet He sent a Son who was perfect. We all have the ability to be forgiven of all of our sins. One of the people above mentioned "Unless we go against the plan is the only way we aren't forgiven" even that is forgiven. That statement was on the right track but it left out a small portion of what is needed to not qualify for a Kingdom of Glory. You would need to have a complete surety that God and His work is real and then go against it. Example if God appeared to you and told you the truth of everything you wanted to know about religion and then if you denied it and went against it. Judas betraying Christ can still be forgiven because it was pre-ressurrection and there wasn't a surety at that moment, at least from whats recorded. That's a lot of leeway to be forgiven.^^ Plus God is smart enough not to go around showing Himself to just anyone that are going to deny Him after that and if they do that's part of Agency and part of the plan. God also shows His perfect Love by allowing temples to function and perform temple work on both sides of the veil and I want to stress that even those who didn't know about the Gospel or chose not to learn about it in this life they still get to have their ordinances performed and they still get to choose after this life. Here is a quote from the Church's handbook section 28 "Heavenly Father knew that many of His children would not receive these ordinances during their mortal lives. He provided another way for them to receive ordinances and make covenants with Him. In temples, ordinances can be performed by proxy. This means that a living person receives ordinances on behalf of someone who is deceased. In the spirit world, deceased persons can choose to accept or reject ordinances that have been performed for them (see Doctrine and Covenants 138:19, 32–34, 58–59)." God loves everyone but he can only trust a few. Love and Trust is different. God really does Love everyone. This is where the term "Beloved" comes from when speaking of Christ. "He is the one who fully, thoroughly and completely pleases God" -LDS Living Christ completely obeyed the Will of the Father. None of us can do that but we are still loved because it was the Will of the Father for an Atonement to be made on our behalf through Christ. That was the whole point of the Plan. Answer that first question and maybe we can better understand you if this hasn't helped thus far. Here's the question again @mikbone, "Where have you seen in your own life that there isn't unconditional, unwavering love from God or from Jesus Christ?"
  2. Here is the scripture where the thought came to mind for reference. Alma 32:16 "Therefore, blessed are they who humble themselves without being compelled to be humble; or rather, in other words, blessed is he that believeth in the word of God, and is baptized without stubbornness of heart, yea, without being brought to know the word, or even compelled to know, before they will believe." The question is, "What are some modern day examples of being compelled to be humble?" I recognize that this scripture in particular is talking about baptism but it can be other aspects of our lives such as doing or not doing something on the Sabbath or the reverse too. What are some examples you have seen in your own or someone else's life and how could have the situation been better if you only chose to be humble to begin with? Try to only share stories that it was clear that you were compelled to be humble and how did you know you were compelled to begin with? Again a story of you, someone else, or another scripture.
  3. Jesus most likely couldn't do that, even now would be my thought, not that I'm putting limitations on Him, but here's the reasoning. In John 11:38-41 here He raises Lazarus from the grave. There was a stone already put over his grave. Jesus says, paraphrasing, "Move the stone." Then He prays and Lazarus comes forth. He didn't move the stone with mystical powers. He did all that he could do or ask to someone to move it, then when no other Earthly thing could help then he prayed and Lazarus "woke up" from death. The way it was explained to me is that the Priesthood isn't "the Force" from Star Wars its much more than that. The Priesthood allows us to perform miracles but doesn't allow us to become "lazy" by moving stones, grabbing my drink from the table. 38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it. 39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days. 40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? 41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. 42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. 43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. P.S. (I do love Star Wars and think its awesome, the Priesthood is just much more powerful than the Force AND the Priesthood is real which is a plus)