Ray Posted August 3, 2004 Report Posted August 3, 2004 Here is a link to the discourse containing the so-called doctrine of blood atonement.http://journals.mormonfundamentalism.org/V...fJDvol4-10.htmlI will state that Brigham Young didn't mean what a lot of people think he meant, and that you can only know what he meant by reading what he said in context and receiving guidance from the Holy Ghost.The Church has many doctrines that are not understood by many people, mostly because they do not receive the guidance of the Holy Ghost to properly understand the doctrine.I recommend reading the complete discourse and then praying for guidance before discussing it here in this forum. Quote
Guest bat Posted August 3, 2004 Report Posted August 3, 2004 How come you only referenced one of the instances where BY taught Blood Atonement? Quote
Ray Posted August 3, 2004 Author Report Posted August 3, 2004 Originally posted by bat@Aug 3 2004, 03:15 PM How come you only referenced one of the instances where BY taught Blood Atonement? Because that is the one Jason referenced, only he didn't provide the full discourse so that we could all see it in context.If you know of any other discourses discussing this issue, feel free to reference them. Quote
Guest bat Posted August 4, 2004 Report Posted August 4, 2004 Are you sure Brigham Young didn't mean what I think he meant when he taught the Doctrine of Blood Atonement? Quote
shanstress70 Posted August 4, 2004 Report Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by bat@Aug 3 2004, 08:58 PM Are you sure Brigham Young didn't mean what I think he meant when he taught the Doctrine of Blood Atonement? VERY disturbing - if it's true. Quote
Spencer Posted August 4, 2004 Report Posted August 4, 2004 Sure trust a site such as exmormon.org =\ Please do not link any material from that site anymore. Thanks. Quote
Guest Traci Posted August 4, 2004 Report Posted August 4, 2004 Originally posted by Ray@Aug 3 2004, 11:05 AM ...so-called doctrine of blood atonement. Your use of the term "so-called" betrays both your fear and embarrassment of this disturbing topic. Quote
Jason Posted August 4, 2004 Report Posted August 4, 2004 Spencer, Just because they are ex-mormons, doesn't mean you can't trust them. Quote
Spencer Posted August 4, 2004 Report Posted August 4, 2004 I understand that, but it doesnt mean you can either. I find it less likly that it would be trust worthy, its fine if you all want to share these links, I just ask that you dont do it on this site. Thanks. Quote
Guest bat Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Originally posted by Spencer@Aug 4 2004, 11:45 AM I understand that, but it doesnt mean you can either. I find it less likly that it would be trust worthy, its fine if you all want to share these links, I just ask that you dont do it on this site.Thanks. Well, okay then. If a website that quotes a bunch of LDS church leaders from church books is "anti-mormon", then more power to you. I guess it is a bad thing for people to know what the leaders of their church have said.By the way, which is it that is "anti-mormon". The church leaders that say such things, or the person who quotes it to show that said church leaders really did say the things that they said?So what makes the link that Ray not "anti-mormon"? Quote
Jason Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Bat's got a point there Spence. Ray's link is to a Mormon Fundamentalist website. Im pretty sure Gordo wouldn't approve! Quote
Spencer Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Aug 4 2004, 09:56 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Aug 4 2004, 09:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Spencer@Aug 4 2004, 11:45 AM I understand that, but it doesnt mean you can either. I find it less likly that it would be trust worthy, its fine if you all want to share these links, I just ask that you dont do it on this site.Thanks. Well, okay then. If a website that quotes a bunch of LDS church leaders from church books is "anti-mormon", then more power to you. I guess it is a bad thing for people to know what the leaders of their church have said.By the way, which is it that is "anti-mormon". The church leaders that say such things, or the person who quotes it to show that said church leaders really did say the things that they said?So what makes the link that Ray not "anti-mormon"? Why do you "anti-mormon" when I never once said that.And my concern is with you, not Ray dont worry about him. I appologize I do not catch every post. Quote
Faerie Posted August 5, 2004 Report Posted August 5, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Aug 5 2004, 01:52 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Aug 5 2004, 01:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--ExMormon-Jason@Aug 4 2004, 10:46 PM Bat's got a point there Spence. Ray's link is to a Mormon Fundamentalist website. Im pretty sure Gordo wouldn't approve! I'd bet that Gordon the Hinckley would say that he doesn't know whether or not he approves of that link. It's a very deep philosophical thing that we don't really know very much about. Go read your scriptures and do whatever your bishop tells you, but we didn't say that. bat..this is the 4th or 5th time you've degraded our beloved prophet, please kindly stop...I personally love and respect President Hinckley and am tired of seeing you insult him... Quote
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