August Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 So, I'm taking an American Studies class called "Rogues and Rebels" where we've been studying different historical figures who went against society or the ruling authorities to determine whether they are a rogue who is only in it for themselves or a rebel who fights for what they believe is right. I need to write a paper for this class and thought that Joseph Smith would be a good topic, as it's already an area of interest for me. So, can you recommend any books or academic sources that would present information in an unbiased manner? Websites are great, but most of them can't be used as sources for this assignment. Pretty much anything that would give a non-Mormon a fair look into whether Joseph Smith made it all up for his own benefit, or really believed in what he was teaching. Thanks:) PS. I'm already reading Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling, a good book so far. Quote
rockwoodchev Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 You should also read No Man Knows My History by Fawn M Brodie.You said you've checked the internet, but I do want to make sure you spend some time on the wiki site for Joseph Smith. It is very accurate.Good luck on the paper. Is there anyway to get a read of it when you are done? Please PM me and lets see if I can get a copy. I'd be willing to proof it for you. Quote
mnn727 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Posted October 17, 2008 You should also read No Man Knows My History by Fawn M Brodie.. The same Fawn Brodies whose other "history" book does not stand up to peer review? Quote
Palerider Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 a book titled....Truth Restored...might be good....:) Quote
bytor2112 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 Brother Joseph...Seer of a New Dispensation By: Richard and Cleon Skousen Quote
Elphaba Posted October 18, 2008 Report Posted October 18, 2008 (edited) The same Fawn Brodies whose other "history" book does not stand up to peer review?The same Fawn Brodie who wrote about Thomas Jefferson's relationship with Sally Hemmings, which no one took seriously.Or, at least, not until their was proof.ElphabaEdit: Ram showed me that I was wrong about there being proof of Jefferson and Hemings relationship. So, I retract my comments in this post.Elphaba Edited October 20, 2008 by Elphaba Because I was wrong. Quote
rameumptom Posted October 20, 2008 Report Posted October 20, 2008 Elphaba, there's still no "proof".The best book out there, bar none, is "Joseph Smith, Rough Stone Rolling" by Richard Bushman. If you can access it, I'd also recommend Terryl Givens' discourse at the Joseph Smith symposium at the Library of Congress in 2005. Not sure if they are still online or not. Try here: BYU Broadcasting | The Worlds of Joseph Smith or here: Symposium Marking the Bicentennial of Joseph Smith - The Library Today (Library of Congress) Quote
Starfish Posted October 20, 2008 Report Posted October 20, 2008 I personally like "A History of Joseph Smith by His Mother Lucy Mack Smith". Of course his mother would be biased, but she was there and saw it with her own eyes. Also, does anyone know if the movie they're currently showing in the Joseph Smith Memorial in SL, about Joseph Smith, is available elsewhere? It's quite good. Quote
Starfish Posted October 20, 2008 Report Posted October 20, 2008 Another thought is the Book of Mormon, itself. Joseph is responsible for bringing this book forth through translation, which has changed the lives of millions. You might consider reading it, because if Joseph did write it himself as the world claims, what would be his motive? The book itself might shed some light on that question. Quote
rameumptom Posted October 20, 2008 Report Posted October 20, 2008 While Lucy M Smith's book is good, it is highly biased. It skips most of Joseph's weaknesses and personal problems. It also ignores the family issues, like Joseph Senior's financial and drinking problems (prior to the Church starting). Quote
NeuroTypical Posted October 20, 2008 Report Posted October 20, 2008 You should also read No Man Knows My History by Fawn M Brodie.Here's a rather detailed and long FARMS review of Brodie herself, as well as many of her works: FARMS: F. M. Brodie "The Fasting Hermit and Very Saint of Ignorance": A Biographer and Her LegendThey're not impressed with her scholarship, her quoting sources out of context, her uncharitable leaps of logic, or her passionate defenders. They are impressed with how the book was marketed.LM Quote
Elphaba Posted October 20, 2008 Report Posted October 20, 2008 Elphaba, there's still no "proof".Thanks Ram, you are right. I should have been more careful in my comment.I still maintain Brodie broached the subject that has led to much research where many concluded it was highly probable Jefferson and Hemings had a relationship; however, highly probable is not proof.And apparently there are others who vehemently disagree with the conclusions. I didn't know that. Bad Elphaba Quote
Maureen Posted October 21, 2008 Report Posted October 21, 2008 I recommend:Inside the Mind of Joseph SmithPsychobiography and the Book of MormonROBERT D. ANDERSONInside the Mind of Joseph Smith: Psychobiography and the Book of Mormon -- Signature BooksM. Quote
rameumptom Posted October 21, 2008 Report Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks Ram, you are right. I should have been more careful in my comment.I still maintain Brodie broached the subject that has led to much research where many concluded it was highly probable Jefferson and Hemings had a relationship; however, highly probable is not proof.And apparently there are others who vehemently disagree with the conclusions. I didn't know that. Bad ElphabaYes, during the time that Sally Hemings was being inseminated, Thomas Jefferson is believed to not have been in town. However, Thomas' brother was in town at the time. So there are several who believe that she was impregnated by A Jefferson, just not necessarily Thomas Jefferson.And you aren't so bad.... Quote
HiJolly Posted October 21, 2008 Report Posted October 21, 2008 Here's another vote for Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman. HiJolly Quote
Guest ceeboo Posted October 21, 2008 Report Posted October 21, 2008 Here's another vote for Joseph Smith: Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman. HiJollyOne vote here, for HiJolly:" Smooth pebble bouncing " by Mr. Jolly :)Peace,Carl Quote
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