ashley23 Posted October 24, 2008 Report Posted October 24, 2008 hi well im ashley a convert since well 13! I love the church mostly the teachings and i accept it, but the people in the church are one huge trial. Can the people in church really stop me froming saying a prayer giving a talk and sharing my testimony because i dont live in the bounderies..just seems wrong..yet they've done so..how sad Quote
Dr T Posted October 24, 2008 Report Posted October 24, 2008 hey Ash. None too much stanger than me. anyway, hi :) Quote
rameumptom Posted October 24, 2008 Report Posted October 24, 2008 Ashley, The Church is based on geography. This is necessary, because bishops are called by God (not man) to be over a certain geographical jurisdiction. This allows priesthood and auxiliary functions to effectively be able to serve those within their boundaries.The bishop cannot allow you to hold a calling, etc., because he does not have that right. You do not live in his jurisdiction. Only the bishop/branch president over the area where you live has that authority and right.While they will not kick you out of their meetings, they do not have the right from God to allow you to serve in their ward. That right resides over your priesthood leader, who resides over the area in which you live.I would suggest you try attending your own ward/branch for a while. make some new friends there. You'll find it will be as nice as the one you are used to attending. There, you will be able to enjoy the full membership benefits that your priesthood leaders, called of God, can provide you. Quote
ashley23 Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Posted October 25, 2008 im not talking about callings..i mean that understandable..but come on i cant give a prayer in church.. Quote
Hemidakota Posted October 25, 2008 Report Posted October 25, 2008 Yes. The Bishop of the local ward can stop you from bearing your testimony, giving a prayer, or functioning in any teaching capacity. If a Bisop follows the council given, he will use the Spirit of Discernment in making that determination on whether it would be pleasing and uplifting to the ward family and in harmony with the Savior. Curious here Ashley, why are you attending another ward? Before I forget, welcome to the forum and hope that your past knowledge and your teaching abilities will bring great treasures to this website. Thanks on being here dear sister. Quote
ashley23 Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Posted October 25, 2008 the ward i grew up in is 3 miles away from my new house i can literly walk there..the one i suppose to go to is eleven miles away and very difficult to get to. i have 13 brothers and sister..all cant drive..my family feels that there not wanted there cause my mother went around church telling the familes with little boys that there was a pedofile attending church..and he wasnt suppose to be around kids..but yea he was interacting with them...but the bishop got mad..anyway basically my families all getting away from the church trying new ones..which is horrible..and because of bounderies...yea yea yea were a very organized church..but i doubt good cares which church building were bearing our testimonies in...theres nothing anyone can say that can make the something like this seem understandable.." im sorry we have to hear the ward members testimon's first, you can share yours in your ward next fast sunday!" come on now.. how can primary kids comprehend this...3 miles!!! Quote
RainofGold Posted October 25, 2008 Report Posted October 25, 2008 Hello Ashely, Welcome to the site. I am sorry that you are going through this. I have seen many times in our ward that some member get "special" permission to attend even if they move away and that in the church boundaries. If you have special needs like you say you have fast and pray with your family to see what HF wants you to do. And after you have prayed and fasted and still feel the same then talk to your stake president and explained your problems to him and see what can be done. Remember though that HF wants his children to be obedient and to follow our church leaders because they are inspired to guide us. Hope this helps, Rainofgold:p Quote
Hemidakota Posted October 25, 2008 Report Posted October 25, 2008 Wow! That many brothers and sisters? I really feel for you. I do know under uncontrolled circumstances, allowances can be made for members to be part of formal ward and hold their records/callings. Perhaps, you should approach the Bishop and explained your plight? Quote
ashley23 Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Posted October 25, 2008 talked to the state president..talked to the bishop..i dont want to bore anyone with the drama that went on when we did so..or missionaries coming to our house lying the foundation for excommunication...ha! yesss i cant believe they actually came with that suggestion..guess they didnt like the dinner..but yea..situation still messed up.. Quote
pam Posted October 25, 2008 Report Posted October 25, 2008 im not talking about callings..i mean that understandable..but come on i cant give a prayer in church.. One of the reasons I am aware of for this is: The people who participate in any capacity whether it be giving talks, allowed to say prayers etc are those who are in good standing with the Church. Those who might be on any kind of a disciplinary action are sometimes told they can't do these things until their situation changes.As you are not in the ward where the Bishop has stewardship and knows of your worthiness...all they can do is say no at this point. Quote
rameumptom Posted October 25, 2008 Report Posted October 25, 2008 Yes, it is the bishop that must determine worthiness for callings and even prayers in meetings. Since he is not your bishop, he does not have the right nor responsibility given him from God to determine your worthiness. Quote
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