Guest bat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:56 PM Do you have faith that your statement is correct? That's all that matters Bat :) It doesn't matter if I have faith or not. It only matters if you can prove that my assertion is untrue. Can you? Quote
AFDaw Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Feb 2 2004, 10:58 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Feb 2 2004, 10:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:56 PM Do you have faith that your statement is correct? That's all that matters Bat :) It doesn't matter if I have faith or not. It only matters if you can prove that my assertion is untrue. Can you? /sighBelieve what you want to is all I'm saying, I don't have to prove anything. Quote
Guest bat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw+Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AFDaw @ Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 10:58 PM <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:56 PM Do you have faith that your statement is correct? That's all that matters Bat :) It doesn't matter if I have faith or not. It only matters if you can prove that my assertion is untrue. Can you? /sighBelieve what you want to is all I'm saying, I don't have to prove anything. If you are saying nothing, and proving nothing, then why are you replying? Quote
AFDaw Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 10:58 PM <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:56 PM Do you have faith that your statement is correct? That's all that matters Bat :) It doesn't matter if I have faith or not. It only matters if you can prove that my assertion is untrue. Can you? /sighBelieve what you want to is all I'm saying, I don't have to prove anything. If you are saying nothing, and proving nothing, then why are you replying? ?!We were talking about Moron, you were the one that brought up LOTR. I said it was interesting reasoning. NEITHER one of us are saying or proving anything. So why are you even asking me that question? I'll ask you the same thing. If you are saying nothing and proving nothing, then why are you replying? Quote
Guest bat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by AFDaw+Feb 2 2004, 11:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (AFDaw @ Feb 2 2004, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM Originally posted by -AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 11:05 PM Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 10:58 PM <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:56 PM Do you have faith that your statement is correct? That's all that matters Bat :) It doesn't matter if I have faith or not. It only matters if you can prove that my assertion is untrue. Can you? /sighBelieve what you want to is all I'm saying, I don't have to prove anything. If you are saying nothing, and proving nothing, then why are you replying? ?!We were talking about Moron, you were the one that brought up LOTR. I said it was interesting reasoning. NEITHER one of us are saying or proving anything. So why are you even asking me that question? I'll ask you the same thing. If you are saying nothing and proving nothing, then why are you replying? My assertion remains true based on evidence that I have cited unless you can prove otherwise, which you have not done. You may now applaud my apologetics and bow before me.Furthermore, your dishonest intentions have been revealed by the fact that you never used or even implied the word "interesting". You are therefore unreliable and make up "anti-mormon" lies. I don't see how any of are supposed to believe a word that you type. Quote
Guest antishock82003 Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 I live in North Carolina, and the other day these two people were driving 52 mph in both lanes on a divided and no one could pass. It was very frustrating. I thought they were morons. Then it occurred to me. They weren't morons. They were Morons!!! This has to be the Land of Moron! Anyways, I think the connection to Ether, which coincidentally mentions Morons (let's not forget the reference is found in the Book of ETHER), is eery. Morons. Ether. Bad driving. You do the math. The Book of Mormon is True. Quote
Guest bat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by antishock82003@Feb 3 2004, 04:26 AM I live in North Carolina, and the other day these two people were driving 52 mph in both lanes on a divided and no one could pass. It was very frustrating. I thought they were morons. Then it occurred to me. They weren't morons. They were Morons!!! This has to be the Land of Moron! Anyways, I think the connection to Ether, which coincidentally mentions Morons (let's not forget the reference is found in the Book of ETHER), is eery. Morons. Ether. Bad driving. You do the math. The Book of Mormon is True. It's entirely possible that they were both from Utah County, or at least have heard of it. Maybe there are TWO Land of Morons! Why not? There are two Cumorahs (originally 'Camorah'), right? I don't see how anyone can doubt the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon now. Quote
srm Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by Peace@Feb 2 2004, 10:46 PM Ether 11: 1414 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat Moron. And it came to pass that Moron did reign in his stead; and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord.Hmmmm. It is a king also...interesting. This is a fine example of a small typo/punctuationerror in the BOMEther 11: 1414 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat a Moron. And it came to pass, that Moron did reign in his stead; and that Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord. Quote
srm Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by bat+Feb 2 2004, 10:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bat @ Feb 2 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:52 PM Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 10:50 PM <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:46 PM That's what I'm saying. I had to go back and read it because I didn't remember the king. Yes, and the king returned. Just like in LOTR. Which means that LOTR is an accurate historical account of actual events, backed up by the BoM. Wow...interesting deductive reasoning there. It's about as plausible as anything that FARMS has come up with to support the BoM, so don't knock it. anything? Quote
Guest bat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by srm+Feb 3 2004, 09:10 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (srm @ Feb 3 2004, 09:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peace@Feb 2 2004, 10:46 PM Ether 11: 1414 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat Moron. And it came to pass that Moron did reign in his stead; and Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord.Hmmmm. It is a king also...interesting. This is a fine example of a small typo/punctuationerror in the BOMEther 11: 1414 And it came to pass that Ethem did execute judgment in wickedness all his days; and he begat a Moron. And it came to pass, that Moron did reign in his stead; and that Moron did that which was wicked before the Lord. Was that a funny joke, or has the codeine kicked in? Quote
Guest bat Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by srm+Feb 3 2004, 09:12 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (srm @ Feb 3 2004, 09:12 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 10:54 PM Originally posted by -AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:52 PM Originally posted by -bat@Feb 2 2004, 10:50 PM <!--QuoteBegin--AFDaw@Feb 2 2004, 10:46 PM That's what I'm saying. I had to go back and read it because I didn't remember the king. Yes, and the king returned. Just like in LOTR. Which means that LOTR is an accurate historical account of actual events, backed up by the BoM. Wow...interesting deductive reasoning there. It's about as plausible as anything that FARMS has come up with to support the BoM, so don't knock it. anything? Forgive me for not wasting my time making up irrelevant paralells and citing circumstantial evidences and pawning them off as 'proofs' for the BoM. I'll try to be more 'scholarly' next time. Quote
Guest antishock82003 Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 I think beer would taste better if it were more like Cream Soda and less like beer. I'd probably drink a lot of beer. Wait. No. Too many calories. Ah. If beer tasted like diet Pepsi I'd drink a lot. So. To be a faithful WoW'er one shouldn't eat meat (only in times of famine...maybe once in a while during the winter) and one should drink beer. I wonder why the Church doesn't abide by it's own canonized doctrinally voted upon and approved liturgically correct doctrine in this instance? Quote
Lindy Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 LOL Two words popped up into my mind: Medicinal Purpose Hey it worked for the old timers and a slug of whiskey didn't it? Or the teetotalers. But if I was going to use something for "medicinal purposes" it wouldn't be beer....uggh I'd go for the good stuff! Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Speaking of medicinal purposes...red wine for the heart. I think that sounds really good....however, I don't know what wine, red or otherwise, tastes like. Quote
Jenda Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by Peace@Feb 3 2004, 12:31 PM Speaking of medicinal purposes...red wine for the heart. I think that sounds really good....however, I don't know what wine, red or otherwise, tastes like. If you really want to know, it's not worth all the hoopla that they give it. In fact, it is pretty bad. YUCK!! Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 3, 2004 Report Posted February 3, 2004 Originally posted by Jenda+Feb 3 2004, 02:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jenda @ Feb 3 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Peace@Feb 3 2004, 12:31 PM Speaking of medicinal purposes...red wine for the heart. I think that sounds really good....however, I don't know what wine, red or otherwise, tastes like. If you really want to know, it's not worth all the hoopla that they give it. In fact, it is pretty bad. YUCK!! Well then I don't have to worry about red wine for dinner. Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by Peace+Feb 3 2004, 03:23 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Peace @ Feb 3 2004, 03:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by -Jenda@Feb 3 2004, 02:14 PM <!--QuoteBegin--Peace@Feb 3 2004, 12:31 PM Speaking of medicinal purposes...red wine for the heart. I think that sounds really good....however, I don't know what wine, red or otherwise, tastes like. If you really want to know, it's not worth all the hoopla that they give it. In fact, it is pretty bad. YUCK!! Well then I don't have to worry about red wine for dinner. It's not that bad, although about thirty varieties of soft drink and all but a few fruit juices taste better. Cabernet sauvignon generally tastes like gnawing on a plank of oak ("hints of chocolate and black cherry," my adz!) while merlot does taste a little like fruit soaked in vinegar, although danged if I could ever taste the blackberry and plum flavors advertised. Quote
Guest bat Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 A lot of FLDS members drink wine. According to an Ex-FLDS person that I know, the WoW wasn't really a Brighamite thing until the 1950's or something like that. They weren't the people that had lots of wives anymore, so they became the people that didn't drink alcohol, coffee, or smoke. Quote
Lindy Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by TheProudDuck@Feb 3 2004, 06:13 PM It's not that bad, although about thirty varieties of soft drink and all but a few fruit juices taste better. Cabernet sauvignon generally tastes like gnawing on a plank of oak ("hints of chocolate and black cherry," my adz!) while merlot does taste a little like fruit soaked in vinegar, although danged if I could ever taste the blackberry and plum flavors advertised. So Mr Duck...are you saying that you are LDS who drinks? Quote
Guest TheProudDuck Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by lindy9556+Feb 3 2004, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lindy9556 @ Feb 3 2004, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--TheProudDuck@Feb 3 2004, 06:13 PM It's not that bad, although about thirty varieties of soft drink and all but a few fruit juices taste better. Cabernet sauvignon generally tastes like gnawing on a plank of oak ("hints of chocolate and black cherry," my adz!) while merlot does taste a little like fruit soaked in vinegar, although danged if I could ever taste the blackberry and plum flavors advertised. So Mr Duck...are you saying that you are LDS who drinks? Not for a long time. Youthful indiscretions, and all that. (Yes, I know -- "youthful indiscretions" are supposed to involve cheap beer and barfing on the party host's living room floor. So I was a snobby indiscreet youth. Sue me -- or have Peace do the lawyer-free equivalent. ) Quote
Ray Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 This thread is hilarious. Thanks for all the laughs everybody. :) Personally, it took me some time before I felt ready to really follow what I believe the Lord is teaching through the Word of Wisdom. I thoroughly enjoyed coffee, beer, wine, and an occasional mixed drink. I tried smoking cigarettes too, and didn’t care for it, but if I had tried smoking a pipe I might have liked that. I still like the smell of a good pipe, almost as much as I like the smell of coffee. For quite a while I also believed that the Word of Wisdom supported the drinking of beer. Verse 17 talks about barley being used “for mild drinks, as also other grains”, and what is beer made of? And if alcohol is considered to be strong drink, it logically makes sense that beer would be considered a mild drink, right? It wasn’t until I heard that another prophet taught against the drinking of beer that I finally yielded to the idea that I shouldn’t drink it, and for quite a while it was really a sacrifice. But then non-alcoholic beer came out, and now all is well. :) Btw, ever wonder why it is considered to be okay to drink hot chocolate or hot soup? Because a prophet explained that “hot drinks” was referring to tea and coffee. At least we got a break there. Quote
Guest bat Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Dude, If it isn't canonized, it ain't so. Having something voted on, makes it true. Beer is okay. Hot Chocolate is not. But the whole WoW isn't really a commandment anyways, so it's all good. It's more like a suggestion. Quote
Ray Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Not quite. Voting on whether or not a true teaching should be considered canonized scripture only indicates who does and does not consider that teaching to be inspired of God. If the voting is unanimous, and all are agreed, the teaching then becomes canonized scripture. Ever wonder how many teachings there are and have been that don’t get a unanimous vote? If God has an opinion and something, and that opinion is revealed to someone, does a nay vote against that opinion mean that God does not agree with that opinion, or only that someone does not accept it? Prophets are people too, and all are not always agreed. Our Lord’s prayer was that we would all become agreed, as He agrees with our Father in heaven, but that doesn’t always happen. In other words, I know for myself that the Lord desires that I do not drink beer, and I do not need to hear that some other people have voted on that idea and reached a unanimous vote before I obey. Btw, I didn't intend to turn this into a superduper serious thread. Please go ahead and say some more funny stuff. :) Quote
Guest Starsky Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Sue me -- or have Peace do the lawyer-free equivalent. ) Lawyer-free doesn't that sound sooooooo awesome?? Or it could be an oxymoron? LOL.....ho ho moron...lawyer...RUTTL! Quote
Guest bat Posted February 4, 2004 Report Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by Ray@Feb 3 2004, 09:22 PM Please go ahead and say some more funny stuff. :) If my beer turns out good, I will name it either Bat Beer, or pAy lAy aLe. Quote
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