No Women In Heaven

[Traveler]

It has occurred to me that there is in scripture an answer to every question. The following scripture proves that there cannot be any women in heaven – And for that matter some men as well:

Revelation 8:1

The Traveler

[Amillia]

Rev. 8: 1

1 AND when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

So did you and your wife have a little tiff this week? This would explain some of your untoward posts.

[Traveler]

Originally posted by Amillia@Jan 28 2005, 01:15 PM

Rev. 8: 1

1 AND when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

So did you and your wife have a little tiff this week? This would explain some of your untoward posts.

Have not seen much of my wife this week – not much chance of a tiff. Just thought I would share some Bible insights with the forum.

As a side note - ancient Hebrew did not have any punctuation that can cause misunderstanding. As an example punctuate the following to give the best understanding:

“Woman without her man is nothing.”

Here is another one. Ancient Hebrew often had no spaces between words so how should we understand the following?

G-disnowhere.

The Traveler

[Blessed]

Well I see it as...

God is now here

But I am a half-full cup person.

[pushka]

LOL...good examples...I read the last one as God is nowhere!

[Traveler]

No one has tried punctuating the sentence?

Is it:

Woman, without her, man is nothing.

Or is it:

Woman, without her man, is nothing.

Any it is interesting how personal bias can influence what someone thinks something should be.

Here is another example of problems in translating ancient Hebrew:

Because there were no printing presses anciently the scriptures had to be copied by hand. Sometimes this was done in a mass production manner (like the Dead Sea Scrolls). Here a priest would read the scriptures and scribes would listen and write. But sometimes there are two way to write what was read giving is slightly different meaning. Below is such an example from two possible listeners:

“I can see for miles”.

“I can see four miles”.

The Traveler

[Amillia]

Originally posted by Traveler@Jan 28 2005, 05:22 PM

No one has tried punctuating the sentence?

Is it:

Woman, without her, man is nothing.

Or is it:

Woman, without her man, is nothing.

Any it is interesting how personal bias can influence what someone thinks something should be.

Here is another example of problems in translating ancient Hebrew:

Because there were no printing presses anciently the scriptures had to be copied by hand. Sometimes this was done in a mass production manner (like the Dead Sea Scrolls). Here a priest would read the scriptures and scribes would listen and write. But sometimes there are two way to write what was read giving is slightly different meaning. Below is such an example from two possible listeners:

“I can see for miles”.

“I can see four miles”.

The Traveler

How interesting. I saw it as negative towards women and it wasn't.

[Guest haicvuong]

God's Representative

235 Grard

San Francisco, California 94134

Hi, Faithful Saints,

Do you believe in Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior? If you do, that's awesome! Because you believe Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you must not attend church building(s) where pastor(s) and leader(s) of that church collects or collected tithes and offerings as like Tax collector collects 17cents per plastic and paper bags and any other taxes as well.

If you who ever believeth that giving money to the church is a blessing or you believeth that paying your money to God is a blessing, please read and see the truth!

Old testament

Malachi 3 verses 10-11.

Malachi 3 verse 4.

These scriptures that I show you to you it has nothing to do with offering and paying money.

New testament

Mathew 5 verses 24-30

Mathew 22 verse 17-21.

Jesus Christ preached this to His people in his days. He gave a parable of the talents and He told the Tax collector to give back the land, the property and farmers, workers and people of God to God, and he can keep collecting tax.

Back up scriptures about tithes (not paying by money).

GENESIS 28:22 NKJ

22 ". . . of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You."

LEVITICUS 27:32-33 NKJ

32 `And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord.

33 `He shall not inquire whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; and if he exchanges it at all, then both it and the one exchanged for it shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.' "

2 CHRONICLES 31:4-5 NKJ

4 Moreover he commanded the people who dwelt in Jerusalem to contribute support for the priests and the Levites, that they might devote themselves to the Law of the Lord.

5 As soon as the commandment was circulated, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of grain and wine, oil and honey, and of all the produce of the field; and they brought in abundantly the tithe of everything.

So, invite your playing bands, songs worshippers, your kids and childrens, your friends, and your relatives to come to my house and make a church! Let's make God happy and rejoice in the Lord.

In Christ,

Hai Vuong

415 508 0935.

[Setheus]

WHERE DO I SIGN UP!?! :)

*cocks my loaded 1911 behind my back*

[Cal]

Originally posted by haicvuong@Jan 29 2005, 01:44 PM

God's Representative

235 Grard

San Francisco, California 94134

Hi, Faithful Saints,

Do you believe in Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior? If you do, that's awesome! Because you believe Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you must not attend church building(s) where pastor(s) and leader(s) of that church collects or collected tithes and offerings as like Tax collector collects 17cents per plastic and paper bags and any other taxes as well.

If you who ever believeth that giving money to the church is a blessing or you believeth that paying your money to God is a blessing, please read and see the truth!

Old testament

Malachi 3 verses 10-11.

Malachi 3 verse 4.

These scriptures that I show you to you it has nothing to do with offering and paying money.

New testament

Mathew 5 verses 24-30

Mathew 22 verse 17-21.

Jesus Christ preached this to His people in his days. He gave a parable of the talents and He told the Tax collector to give back the land, the property and farmers, workers and people of God to God, and he can keep collecting tax.

Back up scriptures about tithes (not paying by money).

GENESIS 28:22 NKJ

22 ". . . of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You."

LEVITICUS 27:32-33 NKJ

32 `And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord.

33 `He shall not inquire whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; and if he exchanges it at all, then both it and the one exchanged for it shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.' "

2 CHRONICLES 31:4-5 NKJ

4 Moreover he commanded the people who dwelt in Jerusalem to contribute support for the priests and the Levites, that they might devote themselves to the Law of the Lord.

5 As soon as the commandment was circulated, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of grain and wine, oil and honey, and of all the produce of the field; and they brought in abundantly the tithe of everything.

So, invite your playing bands, songs worshippers, your kids and childrens, your friends, and your relatives to come to my house and make a church! Let's make God happy and rejoice in the Lord.

In Christ,

Hai Vuong

415 508 0935.

Go start your church somewhere else----the last thing I need is another a pain in the %^&* trying to get my money.

[Amillia]

Originally posted by Cal+Jan 29 2005, 05:18 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cal @ Jan 29 2005, 05:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--haicvuong@Jan 29 2005, 01:44 PM

God's Representative

235 Grard

San Francisco, California 94134

Hi, Faithful Saints,

Do you believe in Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior? If you do, that's awesome! Because you believe Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you must not attend church building(s) where pastor(s) and leader(s) of that church collects or collected tithes and offerings as like Tax collector collects 17cents per plastic and paper bags and any other taxes as well.

If you who ever believeth that giving money to the church is a blessing or you believeth that paying your money to God is a blessing, please read and see the truth!

Old testament

Malachi 3 verses 10-11.

Malachi 3 verse 4.

These scriptures that I show you to you it has nothing to do with offering and paying money.

New testament

Mathew 5 verses 24-30

Mathew 22 verse 17-21.

Jesus Christ preached this to His people in his days. He gave a parable of the talents and He told the Tax collector to give back the land, the property and farmers, workers and people of God to God, and he can keep collecting tax.

Back up scriptures about tithes (not paying by money).

GENESIS 28:22 NKJ

22 ". . . of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You."

LEVITICUS 27:32-33 NKJ

32 `And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord.

33 `He shall not inquire whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; and if he exchanges it at all, then both it and the one exchanged for it shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.' "

2 CHRONICLES 31:4-5 NKJ

4 Moreover he commanded the people who dwelt in Jerusalem to contribute support for the priests and the Levites, that they might devote themselves to the Law of the Lord.

5 As soon as the commandment was circulated, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of grain and wine, oil and honey, and of all the produce of the field; and they brought in abundantly the tithe of everything.

So, invite your playing bands, songs worshippers, your kids and childrens, your friends, and your relatives to come to my house and make a church! Let's make God happy and rejoice in the Lord.

In Christ,

Hai Vuong

415 508 0935.

Go start your church somewhere else----the last thing I need is another a pain in the %^&* trying to get my money.

LOL did you know that all things belong to God? You have no money. All the money you may have is God's. I will agree that even though it is all God's we shouldn't just give to every tom ###### and harry church.

[Cal]

Originally posted by Amillia+Jan 30 2005, 12:16 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Amillia @ Jan 30 2005, 12:16 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -Cal@Jan 29 2005, 05:18 PM

<!--QuoteBegin--haicvuong@Jan 29 2005, 01:44 PM

God's Representative

235 Grard

San Francisco, California 94134

Hi, Faithful Saints,

Do you believe in Christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior? If you do, that's awesome! Because you believe Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you must not attend church building(s) where pastor(s) and leader(s) of that church collects or collected tithes and offerings as like Tax collector collects 17cents per plastic and paper bags and any other taxes as well.

If you who ever believeth that giving money to the church is a blessing or you believeth that paying your money to God is a blessing, please read and see the truth!

Old testament

Malachi 3 verses 10-11.

Malachi 3 verse 4.

These scriptures that I show you to you it has nothing to do with offering and paying money.

New testament

Mathew 5 verses 24-30

Mathew 22 verse 17-21.

Jesus Christ preached this to His people in his days. He gave a parable of the talents and He told the Tax collector to give back the land, the property and farmers, workers and people of God to God, and he can keep collecting tax.

Back up scriptures about tithes (not paying by money).

GENESIS 28:22 NKJ

22 ". . . of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You."

LEVITICUS 27:32-33 NKJ

32 `And concerning the tithe of the herd or the flock, of whatever passes under the rod, the tenth one shall be holy to the Lord.

33 `He shall not inquire whether it is good or bad, nor shall he exchange it; and if he exchanges it at all, then both it and the one exchanged for it shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.' "

2 CHRONICLES 31:4-5 NKJ

4 Moreover he commanded the people who dwelt in Jerusalem to contribute support for the priests and the Levites, that they might devote themselves to the Law of the Lord.

5 As soon as the commandment was circulated, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of grain and wine, oil and honey, and of all the produce of the field; and they brought in abundantly the tithe of everything.

So, invite your playing bands, songs worshippers, your kids and childrens, your friends, and your relatives to come to my house and make a church! Let's make God happy and rejoice in the Lord.

In Christ,

Hai Vuong

415 508 0935.

Go start your church somewhere else----the last thing I need is another a pain in the %^&* trying to get my money.

LOL did you know that all things belong to God? You have no money. All the money you may have is God's. I will agree that even though it is all God's we shouldn't just give to every tom ###### and harry church.

I prefer the direct method--Jesus said it best: Feed my sheep! So I do--I give big tips to waiters, I never turn down a beggar, and I am generous, directly, to those I see in need. I don't give money to big corporations or anything that is going to use even one penny of it to further some political or social agenda I don't agree with.

[Guest curvette]

Originally posted by Amillia@Jan 28 2005, 01:15 PM

Rev. 8: 1

1 AND when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

I waited exactly thirty one minutes to respond to this post which proves that there CAN be women in heaven! :)