john doe Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Maya, the way it is done here in the US it is as confidential as possible. Usually the only people who know you are getting food assistance are the bishop and the relief society president who visits you and helps determine what items you need. All people involved are bound by confidentiality, kind of like a 'need to know', if you don't need to know, you probably won't be told by those who do know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Uh Pam... some fun you should have in this life.... But I do agree people eat too much junk and many eat too much food too! Too strong food. I am a good giorl and have always eaten what has been put on my plate... and it shows... so people DONT be good, learn to know your limits! And dont push in more, not even to missionaries. Oh that too was in the conferance... But yet the purpose of the Church Welfare program is to assist in providing the "basic" necessities of living. Not to provide "fun" food. Though I must say, the pork roasts that are at the Bishop's storehouse here in Utah were pretty yummy...so I guess I did have "fun" eating them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 And dont push in more, not even to missionaries. I'm fairly sure I offended some people on my mission by turning down food. Most annoying was I had say, "No thank you." or "I'm good." several times in a row before they'd give up, and some never would.Of course that's some pretty substantial thread drift./me yanks the wheel.There ya go, carry one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Dravin just out of curiosity...where did you serve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Washington Spokane Mission (aka Wa-Spo Crew). More specifically: Lewiston, ID Hayden Lake, ID Spokane, WA Moses Lake, WA Moscow, ID Post Falls, ID Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Awesome...my great grandfather used to own about 20,000+ acres close to Lewiston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Washington Spokane Mission (aka Wa-Spo Crew).More specifically:Lewiston, IDHayden Lake, IDSpokane, WAMoses Lake, WAMoscow, IDPost Falls, IDYou can crew? Do you know if it has any resemblanse to Finnish language... kind of monotonic?? It was so weird once when I heard a programm on indians in USA... dont know which ones it was, but when they spoke I had a feeling I should have understood it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Maya, the way it is done here in the US it is as confidential as possible. Usually the only people who know you are getting food assistance are the bishop and the relief society president who visits you and helps determine what items you need. All people involved are bound by confidentiality, kind of like a 'need to know', if you don't need to know, you probably won't be told by those who do know.Same here. Sometimes it irritates as you notice you could ahve helped too... but I quess my HF has seen that I have enough trying to keep my house standing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravin Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) Awesome...my great grandfather used to own about 20,000+ acres close to Lewiston.The Palouse? Its pretty in the spring, never got a chance to see it in the summer though. The land of taters, wheat and lentils. :)You can crew? Do you know if it has any resemblanse to Finnish language... kind of monotonic?? It was so weird once when I heard a programm on indians in USA... dont know which ones it was, but when they spoke I had a feeling I should have understood it! I think we've a language barrier. Crew as in a group of people, like a crew that mans a ship. I think you may be thinking of Crow, which is a native american tribe, but I only ever spoke English on my mission. Edited June 14, 2009 by Dravin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenRaines Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Where is it that you get food vouchers from church to go to a regular store? I have always seen the Bishop's Storehouse list and don't recall any soda or chips on the list. All are food stuff and staples that a family would need not necessarily want. California, Nevada, Idaho, Utah all have Bishop's Storehouse. I am sure that there are areas of the country where funds are given to buy these groceries but in the West that is very seldom. In other parts of the world it is even less. Ben Raines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Ben I can understand that in areas where there is not a Bishop's Storehouse that food vouchers to a local grocery store would be appropriate. I guess my beef is..if areas that do have storehouses ONLY stock basic necessities for families and individuals...why are those in other areas not held to the same standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenRaines Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I would agree Pam. Basic necessities are what should be purchased. RS President or her representative should assist in making these purchases. Not give them a check and let them go to the grocery store for whatever they want. Ben Raines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 In total agreement with you Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgama Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 in our area we take a receipt or bill to Bishop/Branch President and its reimbursed or the RS President goes to the store with someone. I know with ours my Branch Prresident said I wasn't spending enough and gave us a box of food as well with biscuits and treats in it. I had only taken some yoghurts for the kids. -Charley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 (edited) But were those biscuits and treats coming from your Branch President or coming out of fast offering money? Please don't misunderstand me when I say treats are nice to get. I just have a problem with someone given a voucher and allowed to buy their share of junk food which is a want and not a need. Edited June 14, 2009 by pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgama Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 i honestly don't know where the extra food came from Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 It doesn't matter. It was nice of him to give them to you. I was just trying to make a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgama Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I think a lot will be a cultural split both my RS President and my BranchPresident insisted I took assistance I had asked for help to cut my bills they felt I wasn't spending enough on food, and couldn't see how I could cut my bills I could but would have taken more work. It was lovely to get the box though we hadn't had biscuits in the house for 4 years -Charley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 I think we've a language barrier. Crew as in a group of people, like a crew that mans a ship. I think you may be thinking of Crow, which is a native american tribe, but I only ever spoke English on my mission.You are right... I quess you could say my bad one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 So I suppose the main reason they do not get help is that they use all their money to pop and cakes and sweets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 The Bishop's Storehouse also has ice cream, and I believe cookies and crackers. Yes, the point is to provide basic sustenance, but there is nothing wrong with an occasional treat as well. I think the problem comes in when a large portion of the 'food' turns out to be junk food of low or very little nutritional value and more expensive than it needs to be. If fast offering money is being used to purchase things for your benefit, it is a wise steward who will make the best use of that money and be frugal in their spending of it. It is not to be viewed as free money, it is to be viewed as the Lord's money set aside for you as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaviusHambonius Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Maybe the ward could put on a function at the wardhouse once a month like a movie or some kind of activity where they could have refreshments like soda, popcorn, cookies and ice cream. That way they could have their sweets and treats and chips and dips once in awhile. That would have of course have to follow a pot luck of good old Hungarian Goolash as the main course if possible. That way you would get a staple of nourishment and some treats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 It has been a few years since I have needed the assistance and I did forget about the ice-cream. But again, the ice cream has to be approved before you pick it up. I still stand by my opinion that there has to be a monitoring of the kinds of items you can get when relying on Church assistance that is paid from fast offerings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SisterofJared Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I have received church assistance in an area where there was no bishop's storehouse. This was in California... and yes, they have some bishop's storehouse there, but not everywhere. The way it was handled was I was given a budget, and wrote up a list with a member of the RS presidency... she shopped and brought the stuff to me. The bishop's storehouse also has candy during certain times of the year. I see nothing inappropriate about giving someone some treats on a limited basis. I think "What would Jesus do?" and I can see him giving children some candy with a kind twinkle in his eye and a smile. I have a dream to someday become wealthy enough to pay for a produce truck to go to the bishop's storehouse and unload tons of groceries: celery, green peppers, cucumbers, avacados, kiwi, pears, mangos, and all sorts of things that were not available when I had to use the bishop's storehouse for several months years ago. Not that I wasn't grateful... I was and will be forever grateful... but what fun it would be to throw a little variety into someone's life when they're down and out a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 I suppose the fun and vareity will be up to the other menbers... like if you know (no one usuallu know) you could by a big bag of candy or bake a cake and take it to a family who is in need.... Could leave it on the door step ring the bell and hit for the bushes... I just heard Quess what the preasthood meeting was about in the stake conferance last weekend..... yes bishops warehouse Maybe I beter shut up now.... very quietly opening the door in my room and creeping under the bed .. with the rentalrabbits.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.