A Poll About Please

[Guest bizabra]

Originally posted by Ari+Nov 12 2005, 10:16 PM-->

Originally posted by Snow@Nov 12 2005, 07:09 PM

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As a Mormon, a little more focus on what your leaders teach would be in order, with less time spent promoting your false teachings, misinterpretations, and distortions of the Gospel.

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Ari, or whoever you are as there are 4 of you posting with the same IP address,

If there is anything that I have posted that is false, a little less insipid one-line insults from you and a little more explanation of why or how I am wrong would be in order.

Frankly, from what I have seen, you aren't capable of doing much beyond posting one-line retorts and resorting to labels and insults. I'm not hopeful.

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What a life you must have...it's hard to imagine you're really a Mormon...aha! I got it...you're a moron!!! lolol

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BIZ: Heh! You just proved his point! LOL

[Guest Ari 2]

Originally posted by bizabra+Nov 13 2005, 12:08 PM-->

Originally posted by Ari@Nov 12 2005, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Snow@Nov 12 2005, 07:09 PM

<!--QuoteBegin-Ari@Nov 12 2005, 05:39 PM

As a Mormon, a little more focus on what your leaders teach would be in order, with less time spent promoting your false teachings, misinterpretations, and distortions of the Gospel.

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Ari, or whoever you are as there are 4 of you posting with the same IP address,

If there is anything that I have posted that is false, a little less insipid one-line insults from you and a little more explanation of why or how I am wrong would be in order.

Frankly, from what I have seen, you aren't capable of doing much beyond posting one-line retorts and resorting to labels and insults. I'm not hopeful.

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What a life you must have...it's hard to imagine you're really a Mormon...aha! I got it...you're a moron!!! lolol

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BIZ: Heh! You just proved his point! LOL

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You've got no sense of humor.

[DisRuptive1]

Please seems to be critisizing every post that doesn't have many words in it. Spam is not short entries. Spam are posts which are useless and don't add anything. Spam could be 10 paragraphs long. Non-spam doesn't have to be long. If it's just 1 sentence and it adds to the thread, then it's not spam. Critisizing other posts in order to protect yourself is spam.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Nov 13 2005, 05:05 PM

Please seems to be critisizing every post that doesn't have many words in it. Spam is not short entries.  Spam are posts which are useless and don't add anything.  Spam could be 10 paragraphs long.  Non-spam doesn't have to be long.  If it's just 1 sentence and it adds to the thread, then it's not spam.  Critisizing other posts in order to protect yourself is spam.

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LIKE THIS ONE OF YOURS?

[DisRuptive1]

I'm not protecting myself. Also, moderators, if Please seems to think that a high post count is good, I suggest resetting it to 0, see if it humbles him/her or not.

[Guest Ari 2]

Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Nov 13 2005, 04:38 PM

I'm not protecting myself.  Also, moderators, if Please seems to think that a high post count is good, I suggest resetting it to 0, see if it humbles him/her or not.

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Never miss a good chance to shut up.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by DisRuptive1@Nov 13 2005, 05:38 PM

I'm not protecting myself.  Also, moderators, if Please seems to think that a high post count is good, I suggest resetting it to 0, see if it humbles him/her or not.

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You are CRITCIZING me... and have absolutely nothing of value in your post... therefore it is spam... according to your own words...

Numbers must mean a lot to you guys...you guys keep bringing up this point... Not one woman has said anything about numbers... go ahead put mine back to zero... obviously your egos are hurting for what reason I know not... there are lots of posters with thousands more than me... like SNOW and his 5000... they mean nothing to me.

[lisajo]

What is it that makes you think she is doing this to have high posts? You are assuming

[Guest Ari 2]

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

[lisajo]

Originally posted by Ari@Nov 13 2005, 03:52 PM

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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Wayyyyyyyyy to funny girl, ok was that your own quote? LOL

[Guest Ari 2]

[Wayyyyyyyyy to funny girl, ok was that your own quote? LOL

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No, I'm afraid I can't take credit for that, but it is funny.

[Jason]

Originally posted by Ari@Nov 13 2005, 05:52 PM

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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I detest plagerism.

Please remember to quote your source in the future. (Hint: this quote has no known author.)

[lisajo]

Originally posted by Jason+Nov 13 2005, 04:37 PM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-Ari@Nov 13 2005, 05:52 PM

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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I detest plagerism.

Please remember to quote your source in the future. (Hint: this quote has no known author.)

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What? OKAYYYYYYYYYYYY she said it wasnt her's

[pushka]

I voted Yes...I wouldn't like to force anybody away from the site. I agree that some comments/one liners are not particularly necessary, or adding anything to the threads concerned, and yes this does become annoying in some circumstances.

I have been 'outed' by Dis myself for posting pointless one line 'I agree with you..' posts, and I apologise for doing so without making further remarks that add to the post. As for some of Please's posts wanting to provoke controversy, I do feel that sometimes others here also post one liners (or more) in order to provoke controversial remarks too...they know who they are, and sometimes their posts, especially in the advice section, are quite mean and insensitive...I still wouldn't like to drive them away from the forum though, because each of us has something useful to contribute at least some of the time, so let's be fair!

Btw, if there is an enormous white space beneath my words, which is taking up bandwidth, I do apologise but it was my kitten stepping onto the keyboard whilst I was typing which caused it!!

[Ray]

I think some understanding may help to resolve this issue.

I quote other posts to show which post or posts I am responding to, and considering the fact that there are usually one or more posts between the post or posts I am responding to and the post I am writing, I think the use of quotes helps to avoid confusion, while also making it easier to see which words or thoughts from the other members are being referred to in the post I am writing.

For instance, if I simply write a post saying that “I agree”, or “I do not agree”, some people may have trouble understanding what I agree or do not agree with, and instead of trying to rephrase what someone has just said in other words, I quote them in their own words to show what I am talking about.

With that said, I think it should be easier to now understand why I use “quotes” to refer to other posts, and I will simply ignore comments from other members of the board telling me they consider this to be an inefficient means of communication, considering the fact that I think it is helpful.

And btw, I sometimes try to avoid quoting the last post in a thread when I am responding to that one, but sometimes somebody else finishes their post before I finish mine and then it comes between what was the last one and the one I wrote, so it still seems to me that quoting a post is the easiest way to show which post I am referring to, when I’m referring to something somebody else has written, although I do sometimes take the extra effort of going back into my post and deleting the quote if my post is immediately after the post I am referring to.

p.s. One possible way of improving the system might be to add + and – windows to click on to either hide or unhide the quotes, so they don’t automatically appear unless someone clicks on the option to reveal the quotes. But I don’t know if the system Heather is using would support that option, and if in fact that would help to reduce the bandwidth.

Oh, and one more thing. I don’t think any member should be banned from this website unless they intentionally “bash” or “ridicule” someone because of either their personality or personal beliefs… and only then when it has been shown that they are unwilling or unable to abide by the rules which are against that type of behavior.

[Maureen]

I voted Don’t care.

I can take or leave Please. IMO, Please likes attention, hence this thread she started – the martyr personality. She does contribute in some good ways, but the majority of the time I think she likes to hear herself talk (translate that into message board vernacular). She has that annoying quality of saying ambiguous statements and then when you ask for clarification, she’s shocked that you couldn’t read her mind through the world wide web. Like I said, it doesn’t matter to me. If she wishes to stay, it’s her choice.

M.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by Maureen@Nov 14 2005, 01:40 PM

I voted Don’t care.

I can take or leave Please. IMO, Please likes attention, hence this thread she started – the martyr personality. She does contribute in some good ways, but the majority of the time I think she likes to hear herself talk (translate that into message board vernacular). She has that annoying quality of saying ambiguous statements and then when you ask for clarification, she’s shocked that you couldn’t read her mind through the world wide web. Like I said, it doesn’t matter to me. If she wishes to stay, it’s her choice.

M.

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Thanks for your honest opinion... but I think it comes mostly from your personal pain you receive from my posts to yours.

You don't like being told anything about what your game is... becasue most of this post is just a lame attempt to slap me back... LOL

[Guest Ari 2]

Originally posted by Jason+Nov 13 2005, 05:37 PM-->

<!--QuoteBegin-Ari@Nov 13 2005, 05:52 PM

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

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I detest plagerism.

Please remember to quote your source in the future. (Hint: this quote has no known author.)

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Umm... that would be the well known author, "Anonymous".

[Maureen]

Originally posted by Please+Nov 14 2005, 12:42 PM-->

You don't like being told anything about what your game is...

See now I don't even know what that means - what my game is?

... becasue most of this post is just a lame attempt to slap me back...

Let me remind you of your own words:

<!--QuoteBegin-Please

@Nov 12 2005, 05:46 PM

...Please vote and give me full explanation of your feelings.

This post is explaining my feelings - isn't that what you wanted?

M.

[Guest Ari 2]

Originally posted by Maureen@Nov 14 2005, 12:40 PM

I voted Don’t care.

I can take or leave Please. IMO, Please likes attention, hence this thread she started – the martyr personality. She does contribute in some good ways, but the majority of the time I think she likes to hear herself talk (translate that into message board vernacular). She has that annoying quality of saying ambiguous statements and then when you ask for clarification, she’s shocked that you couldn’t read her mind through the world wide web. Like I said, it doesn’t matter to me. If she wishes to stay, it’s her choice.

M.

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I strongly disagree. There, that's one more word than "I disagree"; therefore, it isn't spam.

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by Maureen+Nov 14 2005, 01:50 PM-->

Originally posted by Please@Nov 14 2005, 12:42 PM

You don't like being told anything about what your game is...

See now I don't even know what that means - what my game is?

... becasue most of this post is just a lame attempt to slap me back...

Let me remind you of your own words:

<!--QuoteBegin-Please@Nov 12 2005, 05:46 PM

...Please vote and give me full explanation of your feelings.

This post is explaining my feelings - isn't that what you wanted?

M.

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I thanked you for your honest opinion.... which was you could care less...Maureen... did you want me to dance also?

Your game is exposed each and every post... the game in this one... slapping me back... I con't consider slaps as opinions... just slaps... a game... with a mask... pretending to be something ligitamate... but not... that is the way most of your games come...

Most all your posts about the church come this way.. masked... as ligitamate... but nothing more than a way to SLAP the church as you have sapped me here...

I don't mind... and if your feelings can only be expressed in 'slapping' comments... so be it.

[Guest Ari 2]

Please, I haven't been in this network for very long, but having read your posts, and seeing how you've been attacked, I don't blame you for conducting a poll. I see nothing with the name "martyr" written on it in that regard. It would seem to me that you are only attacked by those who disagree with you. Since the fourm is for everyone to share their opinions, I would think that attacking someone for their beliefs would be out of order. Is there a rule which applies to that?

[Guest Member_Deleted]

Originally posted by Ari@Nov 14 2005, 02:04 PM

Please, I haven't been in this network for very long, but having read your posts, and seeing how you've been attacked, I don't blame you for conducting a poll.  I see nothing with the name "martyr" written on it in that regard. It would seem to me that you are only attacked by those who disagree with you. Since the fourm is for everyone to share their opinions, I would think that attacking someone for their beliefs would be out of order.  Is there a rule which applies to that?

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I guess it is all in the perspective of the attacker... I have never cried martyr... I put this poll up to find out if what snow and jason had been saying was true. They had both said my posts were a waste of space and contained nothing...I wanted to know if that was the general opinion of the board... and if it was... I would move on...

I see no martyrdom in that... but someone wanting to 'slap' me would ...

[Guest Ari 2]

Originally posted by Please@Nov 14 2005, 01:08 PM

I guess it is all in the perspective of the attacker... I have never cried martyr... I put this poll up to find out if what snow and jason had been saying was true. They had both said my posts were a waste of space and contained nothing...I wanted to know if that was the general opinion of the board... and if it was... I would move on...

I see no martyrdom in that... but someone wanting to 'slap' me would ...

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For clarification, I thought it might be a good idea to distinguish between the following words, and to perhaps mention in our posts, which stance we are taking.

attack: to set upon, try to get the better of or destroy or win; to assail in words or writing

counter: opposite, contrary; in the opposite direction; to answer an attack

defend: to protect from danger, slander, or criticism; to justify

offend: to affront; hurt the feelings of (someone); to arouse feelings of disgust in; to act contrary to law, moral principle; to cause resentment or disgust

[lisajo]

SLAP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding LOL

What i have seen is some think their opions, on their post on all the forums is a little nasty, I guess they want attention, i think it is good to have all types of personalitys on the site, I tend to have a silly one, and i know at times that bothers people, But the things is .......That is who i am, Any one that would want to ban your post have to think ...........What do i bring to the forum, what is my personality, For instance Dis can really tick me off some times but then there are times i really enjoy him, I really would not like to see him go, although i have said it before (sorry Dis ) I would hate to see anyone leave,

A comment made by Ari once upset me, then i got to know her and she is really a great person,

Snow tends to egg me on but then i think maybe he/she just wants to make a clearer point, and i can ignor them,

some i have liked right away........Josie is great, have known her along time now and her advice to me in the past was most treasured (love ya Josie )

Prinsonchaplain not LDS but is very good with talking and listening to everyones point of veiws (Your sooooo cool Chap You would make a great mormon!)

After all it i just our oppinions, and some truth has been spoken besides oppinions, I like everyone ....yes i get ticked of alot...........but to think some one should go because their posts arent long enough.......... does that mean i should leave then, i know many of mine are short and i just now learned how to use the quote thing right, I say we move on and get back to just being what we are.....Human, Ignor the rude posts and post what we are feeling

Love ya all..... ya bunch of crazies LOL