Use of the term "Mormon" for "Mormon Fundamentalists"

[Just_A_Guy]

According to a series of recent posts over at bycommonconsent.com, IRI (or its parent entity, the Corporation of the President) is "the Church" and, legally speaking, we're not "members" at all.

[Snow]

Does the Church hold the trademark or does Intellectual Reserve, Inc. ?

:)

Intellectual Reserve... you're point being?

Note: Intellectual Reserve is a holding company owned by the Church for the purpose of holding intellectual property so what is held by IR is held by the Church.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Snow

[Jamie123]

Protestants don't call themselves Catholics, do they?

Actually they do. The word "Catholic" is used in many Protestant churches to imply "Universal", and the word even appears in the Westminster Confession of 1646:

The catholic or universal Church, which is invisible, consists of the whole number of the elect, that have been, are, or shall be gathered into one, under Christ the Head thereof; and is the spouse, the body, the fulness of Him that fills all in all.

Also many people who are not Roman Catholics nonetheless identify themselves as "Catholic" in a more general sense. For example, High Church Anglicans (those who emphasise the pre-reformation heritage of the Church of England) are often referred to as "Anglo-Catholics", and I've never heard any Roman Catholics object to this. Edited April 14, 2010 by Jamie123

[Jamie123]

Also check this out about the Church of Ireland: (from Church of Ireland - A province of the Anglican Communion)

There are Catholics who accept the universal jurisdiction of the Pope, the Bishop of Rome. Often in consequence they are called Roman Catholics. But there are other Catholics who do not accept the Pope's jurisdiction or certain doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. Some are called Protestant or Reformed Catholics. Among them are members of the Church of Ireland and the other Churches of the Anglican Communion.

Maybe there are similarly Mormons who accept the universal jurisdiction of President Monson, and other Mormons who don't.

[ZSEdwardson]

Well the real question is this...

Does Mormon mean...

A member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Or does Mormon mean....

Somone who belives the Book of Mormon is Holy Scripture and Joseph Smith was a prophet of god?

Or does Mormon mean....

Somone who belives the Book of Mormon is Holy Scripture and Joseph Smith and Brigham Young where prophets of god?

Under the 2nd definition, the RLDS and its offspring are included, along with the small Strangalite community, along with the FLDS, AUB, Davis co-op, ect.

Under the third definition, you drop all the RLDS based groups, but you have the CoJCoLDS and Mormon Fundamentalists.

The biggest issue is that while as members of the church, we have a easy time understanding that what the FLDS belive is not 100% the same as what we belive, but in the public thought, many itmes they are thought to be the same. Kinda like how baptists get tarred with the same brush that the westburo baptist church and its actions.