Mormon Myths

[Guest Syble]

I didn't do it to get an reaction. The fact that you did react the way you did, is your problem. It doesn't make me a trol.

Continued afforts at trolling duly noted.

You can't handle the truth son!

Declaring yourself as the foremost arbirter of truth doesn't prove your hypothesis either.

It doesn't disprove it either.

[Aristotle]

I wish you much luck in your new abode.

Did you miss the part where I said I can't afford it? Or are you just being rude?

No, I'm not being rude...I wish you luck...whenever you can afford to move.

[sgallan]

No, I'm not being rude...I wish you luck...whenever you can afford to move.

Why?

It doesn't disprove it either.

And your point is?

I have a hypothesis..... the type of Islam as practiced by OBL is more peaceful and kind than is Christianity.

[Guest Syble]

No, I'm not being rude...I wish you luck...whenever you can afford to move.

Why?

It doesn't disprove it either.

And your point is?

I have a hypothesis..... the type of Islam as practiced by OBL is more peaceful and kind than is Christianity.

So show me the proof. :)

[sgallan]

So show me the proof.

Don't you know your history? Look at how many we killed in WWII. Korea. Vietnam. Those folks cn't hold a candle to that.

[Guest Syble]

So show me the proof.

Don't you know your history? Look at how many we killed in WWII. Korea. Vietnam. Those folks cn't hold a candle to that.

That is too one sided to be of any real proof. You have to have something comparing and showing how much worse we were. (you won't find anything because we were far from the worst)

[sgallan]

That is too one sided to be of any real proof. You have to have something comparing and showing how much worse we were. (you won't find anything because we were far from the worst)

You can't handle the truth!

[LionHeart]

I don't know what ya'll are talk'n bout, but I do know that Maureen has been right in 87.7% of all her posts.

Okay, I have a question. And I mean no offense to Maureen, but Maureen has been right in 87.7% of all her posts compared to what standard? Is she universally right; statistically right; or just 87.7% in agreement with you?

[Aristotle]

It all depends upon which side of the fence one sits. ;-)

[Guest Syble]

That is too one sided to be of any real proof. You have to have something comparing and showing how much worse we were. (you won't find anything because we were far from the worst)

You can't handle the truth!

You have to do better than mimick if you want to discuss intelligently.

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I don't know what ya'll are talk'n bout, but I do know that Maureen has been right in 87.7% of all her posts.

Okay, I have a question. And I mean no offense to Maureen, but Maureen has been right in 87.7% of all her posts compared to what standard? Is she universally right; statistically right; or just 87.7% in agreement with you?

She is 87.7% right up Snows alley! LOL She isn't right about LDS. She does good research and puts out links and things, but she herself is not right any of the time about being LDS because she herself is not LDS. It takes one to know one. It takes someone who has actually gone into the water and taken the covenants (seriously) to know what it is that LDS deal with 100% of the time.

I respect Jason's posts more than Maureen's for this very reason.

[Aristotle]

Sorry, but that percentage sounds like a myth.

[sgallan]

You have to do better than mimick if you want to discuss intelligently.

I'm not mimicking..... you just can't handle the truth.

[Guest Syble]

You have to do better than mimick if you want to discuss intelligently.

I'm not mimicking..... you just can't handle the truth.

LOL

[Lindy]

I am not reading a lot of threads anymore because I don't have the time to read the one liners and the contention which is flying around really annoys me.

I find a good thread to read...and lose intrest really fast....

However I do enjoy learning the history and stats that are being shared. Thank you for that much... I like to learn and increase my intelligence level.

Constant garbage and bickering is just a major turn off.

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That's not a myth. A bishop has the right (and the duty) to set the standards for Sacrament Meetings. If he, in his wisdom, says white shirts - then white shirts it is. You do have an option, and that is to not pass the sacrament.

Snow, you are talking about passing the sacrament only I hope? I can understand the show of respect with a white shirt.... but why not respect those who may not own a white shirt? Are they less than worthy to pass?

I have blue eyes.... does that make me better than those with brown?

This kind of upsets me...cause it's one of the reasons I left the church I had been going to at 16 .... the rules set to exclude others from coming into the church to worship because of their clothing...... geeeez

and I would hope that we as members would welcome ANYONE in to the chapel to worship no matter what color clothing they were wearing.

[Guest MrsS]

1. Determine whether or not what you're being told is a commandment. If it isn't a commandment, it isn't a gospel teaching.

2. Determine whether or not what you're being told is policy or procedure. If it isn't policy or procedure, it isn't a Church teaching.

3. Determine whether or not what you're being told is a true or false member teaching. Go by the spirit as to whether or not something feels right or wrong to you. If it feels wrong, don't do it.

Thanks for more of the false member teachings ~ I will remember these.

[Snow]

This kind of upsets me...cause it's one of the reasons I left the church I had been going to at 16 .... the rules set to exclude others from coming into the church to worship because of their clothing...... geeeez

Come on Lindy. It is absurd to think that the reason some Bishops ask the priesthood holders to wear white shirts is in order to exclude or prevent people from coming to church.

[BenRaines]

I am sure it has happened but I know of no one who has been looked down on for wearing a non white shirt to church. My good friend used to wear black shirt and black tie. to church with his sut, a la Regis, he was called the next week to be Bishop. Has been now for two years.

Ben

[Snow]

Come on Lindy. It is absurd to think that the reason some Bishops ask the priesthood holders to wear white shirts is in order to exclude or prevent people from coming to church.

While i don't think that was the reasoning, i do think it is a by product. I do not now or will i ever own a white shirt, and i feel very out of place every time i walk into church with my friends, and i do get odd looks wearing my black shirt and red tie. I always dress nice when i visit their church, but i think any nice dress should count as respectful without it being white.

I know a few kids who really dislike the white shirts and ties, and being they get grief about it loose a bit of interest in going at all.

Sure - I used to wear my earring to Church (20 years ago in Utah) and though no one ever said anything I couldn't very well complain about getting quisical looks for the folks. Groups develop a kind of group-think. If you purposedly do something contrary to the group's norms you can't very well complain about it.

[Lindy]

Come on Lindy. It is absurd to think that the reason some Bishops ask the priesthood holders to wear white shirts is in order to exclude or prevent people from coming to church.

I really don't mind being absurd from time to time.... when I try to make a point.

I will use SS's " While i don't think that was the reasoning, i do think it is a by product" statement.

I think that there are those who will chose to stay away rather than be told what to wear or how to wear it.

Since a church is supposed to be for anyone, red-yellow-black-white or blue.... what should be the main concern?.... having them there in the first place.... the WANT or the NEED to be in church.

Everything else should take second fiddle.

But that is my own humble absurd dorky opinion.

[Snow]

I think that there are those who will chose to stay away rather than be told what to wear or how to wear it.

Now that is silly: I refuse to go to Church and partake of the sacrament, renew my covenants with God, enjoy meeting friends, learn about the gospel and keep the sabbath day holy because I think someone might tell me what to wear.

For heaven's sake. Think about it.

In decades of going to Church only once has someone told me how to dress and that was to wear a white shirt to pass the sacrament. If I want to be able to pass the sacrament, then I wear a white shirt, otherwise I don't. I do however, wear my Sunday clothes because for me it is a symbol of my reverence for the chapel where I partake of the sacrament. It matters not one bit what other's think of my attire. I don't derive my self-worth from Mormon's fashion sense.

[Lindy]

This kind of upsets me...cause it's one of the reasons I left the church I had been going to at 16 .... the rules set to exclude others from coming into the church to worship because of their clothing...... geeeez

I WAS thinking about it....but I was hoping to make a point that I HAD GONE TO a church which excluded others for what they wore. It was a church in downtown Portland (it was NOT an LDS church) and turned street people and the "welfare" familiies as they called them away at the door. Their clothing was "not appropriate" to worship in.

So, you see, they were "refused" to take of any opportunity to meet people, to learn about the gospel, to keep the sabbath day holy, or to draw closer to God BECAUSE of what they wore.

It happens...... we have to be careful about what we think about others, they may be the ones who need religion the most.

And you are right ... no one should derive self-worth from anyone's fashion sense. BUT you are a strong individual in your faith..... there are some who are floundering in theirs.

I butt heads with the best.... so I could go on and on if you want to use....hmmmmm ridiculous to next describe my post?

[Outshined]

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I think that there are those who will chose to stay away rather than be told what to wear or how to wear it.

Now that is silly: I refuse to go to Church and partake of the sacrament, renew my covenants with God, enjoy meeting friends, learn about the gospel and keep the sabbath day holy because I think someone might tell me what to wear.

For heaven's sake. Think about it.

In decades of going to Church only once has someone told me how to dress and that was to wear a white shirt to pass the sacrament. If I want to be able to pass the sacrament, then I wear a white shirt, otherwise I don't. I do however, wear my Sunday clothes because for me it is a symbol of my reverence for the chapel where I partake of the sacrament. It matters not one bit what other's think of my attire. I don't derive my self-worth from Mormon's fashion sense.

Agred, and our Elders Quorum has a policy of buying white shirts for those who don't have them and want to pass sacrament.

[Guest Yediyd]

Thx for your answer. Unfortuately the Spirit fails me right now so I can't go to that. Guess I'll just have to ride it out.

I know this is an old post and this person may not even still be here...but I couldn't keep quiet on this one...

If you feel like the Spirit isn't close...just remember that it wasn't the Spirit who moved.

[a-train]

WORD!

[Guest Username-Removed]

An example of member teachings which are not doctrinal is the idea that you must take the Sacrament with your right hand...

And it must, I repeat, must, be WHITE bread! LOL