pam Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 11 faith-based predictions for 2011 – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com BlogsMormons got mentioned in #7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 I like the idea of #6. I also hope that the latter part of #11 proves true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 What is Card talking about when he says "viciously anti-Mormon mockery of Romney"? I know he asked the question "Don't Mormons believe Jesus and the Devil are brothers?" but then refused to discuss it anymore, stating he wasn't going to answer questions about candidates' religious beliefs. For example, he refused to answer the question whether or not he thought Mormonism was a cult. Here's a link to one story about it.While I definitely see the "brothers" comment as a dig, I don't think it's vicious, especially if that's the only thing he said. When I read Card's words, I think there must have been more, but I can't find it. Can someone fill me in?Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) In my experience, those that ask the question about Christ and Satan being brothers usually are not out to understand what our beliefs are concerning this but only to smear Mormonism. I think that is why Orson Scott Card calls it vicious since it was done so publically. It's an age old anti smear that I've seen time and time again. Edited January 2, 2011 by pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 . . . Santa. . . . That just made me laugh. I think that is why Orson Scott Card calls it vicious since it was done so publically.It's an age old anti smear that I've seen time and time again.I agree, and I have no doubt Huckabee knew that, given his evangelical background. I just think Card is being a bit hyperbolic about it. I read "vicious anti-Mormon mockery" and thought there had to be more there. Do you? Or am I the one being hyperbolic? I really want to know.Elph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 OOps sorry..see what happens when I try to type too fast. I corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierGuy Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 What is Card talking about when he says "viciously anti-Mormon mockery of Romney"? Elphaba I hope but doubt the presidential candidates will bring up Romney putting down the single men and women in the Church. If he thinks that about them what about the other singles in the U.S.? Did he ever apologize for his statements? I mean apologize and not say he was misquoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I hope but doubt the presidential candidates will bring up Romney putting down the single men and women in the Church. If he thinks that about them what about the other singles in the U.S.? Did he ever apologize for his statements? I mean apologize and not say he was misquoted.Link?Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmoroniRM Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 That just made me laugh. I agree, and I have no doubt Huckabee knew that, given his evangelical background. I just think Card is being a bit hyperbolic about it. I read "vicious anti-Mormon mockery" and thought there had to be more there. Do you? Or am I the one being hyperbolic? I really want to know.ElphThe Huckabee campaign spread anti-mormon arguments like the Jesus and Satan are brothers thing disguised as push-polling. That anti-mormon push-polling led to his wins in several states. Some of that anti-mormon push polling continued even after those states were already won. Maybe it wasn't vicious by common understanding, but I think it's vicious to attack and degrade anyone's religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 The Huckabee campaign spread anti-mormon arguments like the Jesus and Satan are brothers thing disguised as push-polling. That anti-mormon push-polling led to his wins in several states. Some of that anti-mormon push polling continued even after those states were already won. Maybe it wasn't vicious by common understanding, but I think it's vicious to attack and degrade anyone's religion.If that is all true, then I do think it was vicious. Would you please provide a reference?Elphaba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Elphie, I googled this and there are so many things that come up. But I just put in "Huckabee and push polling" and you will find an endless list of articles etc to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Is it just me or does Huckabee remind you a bit too much of Gomer Pyle?? (Jim Nabors) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Curmudgeon Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Is it just me or does Huckabee remind you a bit too much of Gomer Pyle?? (Jim Nabors)That's just what he wants you to think. (c.f. "snake in the grass.") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmoroniRM Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Is it just me or does Huckabee remind you a bit too much of Gomer Pyle?? (Jim Nabors)Gomer Pyle? not so much.Larry the Cucumber? Decide for yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Gomer Pyle? not so much.Larry the Cucumber? Decide for yourselfThanks for ruining VeggieTales for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elphaba Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Elphie, I googled this and there are so many things that come up. But I just put in "Huckabee and push polling" and you will find an endless list of articles etc to read.Apparently Huckabee denies involvement with the push polling, and he did denounce it. IF he was not involved with it, I don't know what else he could do.But do I believe him? Nope. So, I get Card's point now. Elph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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