K9 and IPad 2

[Mahone]

Hahah. He was actually poking fun at me for saying 'Windows 97' when, in fact, it was 'Windows 98'.

It's been 13 years. I blame it on confusing Windows 7 and Windows 98 in my brain.

There was an office 97 if that helps

[JaneDoe]

So we did end up getting the IPad and now I'm thinking it was a mistake. Hard to put a filter on all the aps. Ugh. Already had issues with my husband looking at inappropriate things. F R U S T R A T I N G.

[Breaking]

I went through the addiction of pornography for 5 years of my life; very hard times for sure.

Though I was never wedded during the time, I can only imagine the hard time you're having trying to support your husband to overcome his addiction. For a period of time, I went without any technology that had access to the internet that wasn't filtered. I had an Ipod Touch that had apps and it was a problem until i got rid of it/sold it as filtering the apps as you said are extremely hard to do.

The things that truly helped me overcome my addiction was:

-Daily scripture study

-Morning and Evening Prayer (as well as family prayer during the day also)

-EXTRA praying (ALOT with a heartfelt desire to change)

To this day, I STILL have temptation from women at work wearing revealing shirts, short skirts, and such, and it may be hard to implement at first, but someting as simple as singing my favorite church hymn has gotten my mind off of it until the next time.

It will mostlikely ALWAYS be a temptation, but its only as big of a temptation as he lets it be.

[Mahone]

Locally installed filters are fundamentally flawed anyway, whether that's PCs, tablets or the nintendo DS. In fact they often make it worse, because it gives the people around the person with the problem a false sense of security. It's like having an burglar alarm installed in your house, only for every company who makes burglar alarms to have the same shutdown password hardcoded into the alarms, and one that is public knowledge.

If you are currently relying on a local filter like K9, or covenant eyes, or any of the popular solutions often mentioned here, well... don't. Use them if you wish, but don't rely on them. They are far easier to bypass than the companies would like their customers to think.

Edited September 3, 2011 by Mahone

[Dravin]

If you are currently relying on a local filter like K9, or covenant eyes, or any of the popular solutions often mentioned here, well... don't. Use them if you wish, but don't rely on them. They are far easier to bypass than the companies would like their customers to think.

Some laughably so, don't recall which one, and it may not have been a 'major' one but to disable it all one had to do was kill its process in the task manager.

[JaneDoe]

Yes, it is easy to bypass. I think I'm getting gray hair from worrying about all this mess.

[Mahone]

Some laughably so, don't recall which one, and it may not have been a 'major' one but to disable it all one had to do was kill its process in the task manager.

I think that one might have been netnanny.

You cannot properly secure a machine that someone has physical access to - the security rights (or lack thereof) they have on that computer are irrelevant. Unfortunately the same applies to filters that are installed on the computer the person you are trying to filter is using.

The reason this is relevant is because pornography addicts are the kind of people that have a slight interest in bypassing filters. The information is out there, easily accessible, easy to follow, no expertise required.

[Snow]

I'm puzzled.

Why does he want to have an iPad for school? Why not get a thin and portable laptop?

Is there something specifically that draws him to something that has to constantly be cleaned to prevent a smeary screen, can't do Flash and is essentially nothing more than a well marketed, oversized cell phone that can't make phone calls?

1. I clean my screen very infrequently and the quality of the display is never smeary or compromised.

2. Thank goodness it can't do flash - that buggy, battery draining, antiquated failure. Fortunately for the 21 Century, it's demise is now a forgone conclusion.

3. I don't use mine for heavy duty typing but otherwise, it's an incredible tool - truly revolutionary. I use it to teach SS lessons, read the news, videos, music, internet surfing, games, email, work, and on and on. It's a marvel to behold.

[Mahone]

2. Thank goodness it can't do flash - that buggy, battery draining, antiquated failure. Fortunately for the 21 Century, it's demise is now a forgone conclusion.

It'd be nice to have the choice.

[Snow]

It'd be nice to have the choice.

Convenient maybe but I say that anything that hastens the death of Flash is worth the inconvenience.

[kayne]

Convenient maybe but I say that anything that hastens the death of Flash is worth the inconvenience.

dare i ask why the flash hate?

[Mahone]

Convenient maybe but I say that anything that hastens the death of Flash is worth the inconvenience.

This post is going to sound quite ironic, seeing as I'm typing it on my iPhone.

I don't really have an opinion on whether flash is bad enough to warrant that, but I think we both know where we'll end up disagreeing, as we've had similar discussions before.

As someone who works in IT, and is also a computer enthusiast, I dislike the amount of control apple retain over their own devices. I'm used to the ability to manipulate computers for my own needs. I'm used to making my own decisions in areas that apple already does for you in their products.

Apple on the other hand realised that the vast majority of problems with competing products were actually caused by user stupidity. So to solve this problem, they essentially hold the hand of their users, and slapping their wrist when something is attempted that apple don't like.

You probably find spending an extra few hundred $$$ worth it as a time saver, by letting apple do a lot of the research and work for you. Thats fine if their assumptions about what the end user wants is accurate. For me, it isn't.

[beefche]

1. I clean my screen very infrequently and the quality of the display is never smeary or compromised.

2. Thank goodness it can't do flash - that buggy, battery draining, antiquated failure. Fortunately for the 21 Century, it's demise is now a forgone conclusion.

3. I don't use mine for heavy duty typing but otherwise, it's an incredible tool - truly revolutionary. I use it to teach SS lessons, read the news, videos, music, internet surfing, games, email, work, and on and on. It's a marvel to behold.

Please get a room, Snow.

[FunkyTown]

1. I clean my screen very infrequently and the quality of the display is never smeary or compromised.

Then you're definitely in the minority, but I'm happy you haven't had that issue!

Clean Your iPad Screen | Maciverse

2. Thank goodness it can't do flash - that buggy, battery draining, antiquated failure. Fortunately for the 21 Century, it's demise is now a forgone conclusion.

"I'm happy my car doesn't have a radio. Its demise is a foregone conclusion, it's battery draining and antiquated."

It's never a good thing not to have an option.

Also, I should point you to:

How many sites use Flash? > News > Flash Magazine

Having a third of all websites show up buggy on your device isn't exactly a feature.

3. I don't use mine for heavy duty typing but otherwise, it's an incredible tool - truly revolutionary. I use it to teach SS lessons,

Laptop can do that.

read the news

Laptop can do that.

videos,

Laptop can do that.

music,

Laptop can do that.

internet surfing,

Laptop can do that.

games,

Laptop can do far more games.

email,

Laptop can do that.

work,

I can remote in to my desktop using my laptop and do remote in. I couldn't do my work on an iPad, but that's obviously anecdotal. I'm glad your iPad is working out for you.

There are a wider variety of laptops, from the more expensive and ultra elite to the more stripped down(Which can still do more than an iPad) that are several hundred dollars less than an iPad.

The iPad being 'Revolutionary', I would question. Everything the iPad can do can be done on the iPhone, but the iPhone can also make phone calls. For flexibility, power, battery life - Nothing beats a laptop.

The iPad is definitely pretty, though - Nice screen, and as a fashion accessory, it's decent. Not really my thing, but the apple-ites will love it.

[kayne]

Then you're definitely in the minority, but I'm happy you haven't had that issue!

Clean Your iPad Screen | Maciverse

"I'm happy my car doesn't have a radio. Its demise is a foregone conclusion, it's battery draining and antiquated."

It's never a good thing not to have an option.

Also, I should point you to:

How many sites use Flash? > News > Flash Magazine

Having a third of all websites show up buggy on your device isn't exactly a feature.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do far more games.

Laptop can do that.

I can remote in to my desktop using my laptop and do remote in. I couldn't do my work on an iPad, but that's obviously anecdotal. I'm glad your iPad is working out for you.

There are a wider variety of laptops, from the more expensive and ultra elite to the more stripped down(Which can still do more than an iPad) that are several hundred dollars less than an iPad.

The iPad being 'Revolutionary', I would question. Everything the iPad can do can be done on the iPhone, but the iPhone can also make phone calls. For flexibility, power, battery life - Nothing beats a laptop.

The iPad is definitely pretty, though - Nice screen, and as a fashion accessory, it's decent. Not really my thing, but the apple-ites will love it.

yep ive never understood the love for these apple touch products for the reasons you mentioned. sure the apps are cool and all but i think as my one friend that adores these products and buys the latest apple stuff all the time i think it comes down to not being tech savy or that weird computer block some people have. where for say news or video i have to type in youtube.com or news.com or something. on these touch products there is an app that does it for me easily and conviently.

the one perk i will give these products is laptops dont normally have 4g connecting ability. and also some things like a gps can be done far easier on these touch screen products say for my friend who well used to have a private plane there were a few apps that got stuff he needed for that for far cheaper.

so there is SOME use for it....but your average folk no it isnt needed and its a huge waste of money. people just want to be able to click a youtube app instead of logging into a web browser and the never ending myth that apple is more reliable than windows.

i was going to get one for next semester as i saw textbooks can be put on there for cheaper....but then i realized a kindle is far far cheaper and wont distract me near as much especially in class. thought of idea as i saw an article of a school giving kids ipads for this very reason so 800 dollar product for text books or 100 dollar kindle oh yes are taxpaying dollars at work here

[Snow]

dare i ask why the flash hate?

It drains battery life and hogs CPU resources.

Flash for Windows is bad but Flash for OS X is horrid. Apple got so frustrated waiting for Adobe to deliver a quality Flash experience that it threw it's weight behind HTML 5 and today Flash presence on the web is a fraction of what it was 3 years ago. Serves em right for taking things for granted in fast changing IT world.

[Snow]

This post is going to sound quite ironic, seeing as I'm typing it on my iPhone.

I don't really have an opinion on whether flash is bad enough to warrant that, but I think we both know where we'll end up disagreeing, as we've had similar discussions before.

As someone who works in IT, and is also a computer enthusiast, I dislike the amount of control apple retain over their own devices. I'm used to the ability to manipulate computers for my own needs. I'm used to making my own decisions in areas that apple already does for you in their products.

Apple on the other hand realised that the vast majority of problems with competing products were actually caused by user stupidity. So to solve this problem, they essentially hold the hand of their users, and slapping their wrist when something is attempted that apple don't like.

You probably find spending an extra few hundred $$$ worth it as a time saver, by letting apple do a lot of the research and work for you. Thats fine if their assumptions about what the end user wants is accurate. For me, it isn't.

I agree with your point. Not everyones wants and needs are served by the same platform.

[Snow]

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do that.

Laptop can do far more games.

Laptop can do that.

Take a look at the start-up time, weight, size, and battery life and built-in 3G connectivity of your average wintel laptop compared to your average iPad.

Laptops and desktops and smart phones all have their uses and advantages. We have 4 laptops in the family so I like them too, but iPads have a freedom, convenience and user experience you can't get anywhere else.

Afterall, there's a reason Apple sales are exploding while wintel sales are stagnant or dropping.

Edited September 11, 2011 by Snow

[FunkyTown]

Take a look at the start-up time, weight, size, and battery life and built-in 3G connectivity of your average wintel laptop compared to your average iPad.

Laptops and desktops and smart phones all have their uses and advantages. We have 4 laptops in the family so I like them too, but iPads have a freedom, convenience and user experience you can't get anywhere else.

Afterall, there's a reason Apple sales are exploding while wintel sales are stagnant or dropping.

Are we talking about an iPad that is fully shut down, or simply put in to standby/powersave mode? 'Cause a Laptop that's put in to standby/powersave is just as quick.

My suspicion for why iPad sales are exploding has more to do with the genius of Jobs than the genius of the iPad. Jobs could sell practically anything. Look at Apple before he came in in 1999. He took a failing company and made it the biggest company in the world.