Investigator seeks assistance

[john doe]

He had 'tough' questions and you acted 'tough', so he got nervous about posting his questions.

[beefche]

Huh? Wha'd I say?

It's the clown, man.

[Vort]

It's the clown, man.

I'm going back to the Icelandic chick.

[investigator01]

For those who have asked: I was sick last week which is why I did not post. I am sorry my non expeditious response was taken out of context.

Vort: You posted something about supremacy Christian beliefs? Not sure where that came from. Also, you stated for some reason that I was not considering LDS members as Christian because I named you as LDS and myself Christian. As a prior Catholic if someone called me catholic I would not assume they were calling me a non believer in Christ. Catholics sometimes refer to themselves as catholic like LDS refer to themselves as LDS or Mormon. What’s the deal with that? Was that a proactive stab at me for the anticipated “toughness” of my questions? What’s wrong with “nice to meet you how may I be of assistance”? You met me with immediate offense before I said anything. That is why I am done. LDS want the general populous to know "the truth about the church". How can some one accomplish that when met with such opposition before a conversation is even started? I introduced my self and I was labeled a hacker, accused of calling LDS non Christians and to top it off someone posted a horribly false list of my questions and claimed they were from me. You tell me my friend would you be interested anymore?

[beefche]

Investigator, instead of criticizing the posts in this thread, why don't you post your questions in another thread?

[Guest Ivo_G]

investigator01, post your questions already - i wanna read some "tough" questions/answers i'm an investigator myself...

[Vort]

Vort: You posted something about supremacy Christian beliefs? Not sure where that came from.

Then let me help you. I answered your question ("I only seek to humbly yet firmly ask the questions that I can help but wonder about. Any help or takers?") with two possibilities:

• "If you are truly seeking to understand and not to impose your preconceived understanding on everything anyone says, then sure, there are many of us who would be more than willing to take some time explaining our beliefs to you."
• "If your intent is to prove the supremacy of your self-proclaimed "Christian" beliefs [...] then we will have little or no interest in engaging you in conversation.

Not sure which part you found confusing. Please feel free to specify, if it's not clear.

Also, you stated for some reason that I was not considering LDS members as Christian because I named you as LDS and myself Christian. As a prior Catholic if someone called me catholic I would not assume they were calling me a non believer in Christ. Catholics sometimes refer to themselves as catholic like LDS refer to themselves as LDS or Mormon. What’s the deal with that? Was that a proactive stab at me for the anticipated “toughness” of my questions?

What if they said, "You are a Catholic, while I, in contrast to you, am a Christian"?

Now, that is not exactly what you said. It may well not be what you meant. But what you wrote was, "My wife is LDS. I am Christian." Obviously, you were trying to differentiate between the two of you, by identifying your wife as one thing (LDS) and yourself as something else (Christian).

It would be like saying, "My wife wants to own a horse. I prefer a mammal." In that example, you would have used a term ("mammal") that includes the previous term ("horse") rather than differentiates from it. In the actual case, you used a term to describe yourself ("Christian") that is a superset of the term you used to describe your wife ("LDS").

Hope that is clear.

Look, we get a lot of traffic going through here, and a not inconsiderable number of them are antiMormon rabble-rousers. Perhaps you are not one of those; I certainly hope not. I did not mean to offend you. But when you start out saying, "I want to ask some 'tough' questions" -- well, in my experience, the "tough" questions are typically the antiMormon tripe that is so commonly heard, and unfortunately, the "sincere questioner" is typically just another antiMormon looking to peddle his scum. I did not wish to discourage you, just to inform you that if you are one of the antiMormon scum peddlers, your questions would likely be recognized as such.

You met me with immediate offense before I said anything.

I am sorry you took offense. I did not mean to offend. But I cannot control your responses.

That is why I am done. LDS want the general populous to know "the truth about the church". How can some one accomplish that when met with such opposition before a conversation is even started? I introduced my self and I was labeled a hacker,

Seriously? Someone called you a hacker?

accused of calling LDS non Christians

What I wrote was, "by separating LDS from Christian, you are in effect saying that Latter-day Saints are not Christian". If you did not intend any such thing, then I apologize.

and to top it off someone posted a horribly false list of my questions and claimed they were from me.

Are you speaking of mordorbund's post? Was it inaccurate? Even if it was, it didn't seem "horrible" to me.

You tell me my friend would you be interested anymore?

Don't know. You have taken offense where none was intended, but that doesn't mean I did not give offense. Wouldn't be the first time I unintentionally drove someone away. Not my greatest virtue, but I'm working on it.

[skippy740]

This sub-forum is for introductions. Introductions have been made.

Investigator01, we look forward to answering your questions in new threads.

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