Elphaba Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 Love him or hate him . . . this picture just makes me happy looking at it. Daddy and his princessElphaba Quote
pam Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 That is a cute picture and that's all I'm going to say about it or him. hahahaha Quote
the Ogre Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 I haven't been paying attention, but has anyone accused him of being a poor parent? Quote
Elphaba Posted August 20, 2007 Author Report Posted August 20, 2007 haven't been paying attention, but has anyone accused him of being a poor parent?Nah. Just a poor human being all over. No one else but me likes him for a presidential candidate. That's all. Elphaba Quote
Fiannan Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 Look, even Bill Clinton was probably a great dad -- bet we can tell who was the emotional one of Chelsey's parents and the one who actually paid attention to her as she was growing up. Bill seems to be a nice person... But as a president he was hardly an upstanding or honest or consistent leader. Quote
the Ogre Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 Look, even Bill Clinton was probably a great dad -- bet we can tell who was the emotional one of Chelsey's parents and the one who actually paid attention to her as she was growing up. Bill seems to be a nice person...But as a president he was hardly an upstanding or honest or consistent leader.Right.I like that Obama is a good family man. It is important. I would not say Hillary is much a human and as interesting to listen to as Al Gore and George Bush, but these are not the reasons to pick a person as president, but what they have represented, do represent as politicians, and if they have the background to show they have the ability to govern.I have only listened to Obama once. He is interesting, but that one speech is not enough to sway me. I however can say the same for just about everyone else running for president. I do know I will not vote for Romney or Clinton. I hope there will be better options available when the day comes up regardless of there abilities as parents and spouses.Aaron the Ogre Quote
Moksha Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 But as a president he was hardly an upstanding or honest or consistent leader.Do you mean consistent as in changing positions to appeal to a new voter segment? Quote
the Ogre Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 Do you mean consistent as in changing positions to appeal to a new voter segment?Or his newest girlfriend/secretary. Quote
Fiannan Posted August 21, 2007 Report Posted August 21, 2007 <div class='quotemain'>But as a president he was hardly an upstanding or honest or consistent leader.Do you mean consistent as in changing positions to appeal to a new voter segment?Well, for bombing Serbia for alleged "crimes against humanity" while actively supporting those same crimes when committed by Turkey and Columbia and ignoring even worse crimes when carried out against the Christian East Timorese by the Muslim government of Indonesia.Now if the Serbians had given him canpaign money in 1996 maybe Operation Stained Dress would never had been carried out, who knows? Quote
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