What Babies are thinking about

[cdowis]

You see that infant, your baby and I see them actively thinking about.... something.

A few years ago there was an episode of "Touched by an Angel" that suggested that babies hear the music of heaven.  At the time, I had the feeling that this was true.

I have had experiences with my one year old granddaughter which seemed to confirm this.  Finally I was reading the account of President Snow calling a young girl back from the dead.  As I was reading the account, I felt I had that confirmation.  As she was on her death bed, 
“I could see people from the other world and hear the most delightful music and singing that I ever heard. The singing lasted for six hours, during which time I was preparing to leave this earth, and I could hear it all through the house. At ten o’ clock my spirit left my body."

I believe our young ones hear the music of heaven.

Edited June 16, 2016 by cdowis

[Guest]

I remember seeing a comic in one of the Church magazines (I believe The New Era) where a father was looking down at his precious new baby in the bassinet.  He mused,"You precious child of God so fresh from the memory of the Glory of God.  If you could only have your mouth opened, what words of wisdom would you share?"

The baby then speaks,"Have you done your home teaching?"

The father is surprised, then hangs his head in shame and slinks away.

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A friend of mine shared an experience when he was at a ward picnic.  They heard some music playing somewhere.  It wasn't bad music.  In fact, it was quite pleasant.  But it was distracting them from their socializing.  He described it as fairly quiet and pleasant.  But he and several others could clearly make out a musical sound of some sort.  But none of them were able to reproduce any tune or notion of what the music sounded like.

They went on a hunt around the area to see if the perpetrators would mind turning down the music.  They went quite a distance all around and found that no one was playing any music.  What's more, they didn't notice any change in volume no matter where they walked.

At the end, they concluded that they were hearing the angelic chorus.  They decided NOT to ask the perpetrators to turn it down.

-- This was not third hand, but second hand.  It was my roommate from college with whom I still keep in contact to this day.  I believe him.

 

Edited June 16, 2016 by Guest

[NightSG]

They're babies.  They think about boobs.

I'm sure of this, because 40 years later, I have yet to stop.

[Backroads]

3 hours ago, NightSG said:

They're babies.  They think about boobs.

I'm sure of this, because 40 years later, I have yet to stop.

I know mine does.

Husband asked me last week "What's it like having the whole family obsessed with your breasts?"

[tesuji]

I think it might be common for Mormons to think babies remember things from heaven. I am skeptical. Baby's brains are hardly developed. I suspect they have forgotten everything and are basically clueless.

I hope I'm wrong, because it's nice to think they might remember heaven. Maybe someone can point out to me when church leaders have said that babies remember heaven.

However, in any case, there's no doubt their spirits are still sweet and heavenly, having been entirely uncorrected yet by this mortal world.

The following are beautiful sentiments that make me I hope I'm wrong.

Quote

“It is no small thing, when they, who are so fresh from God, love us. ”
-- Charles Dickens

Quote

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:     
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,      
        Hath had elsewhere its setting,     
          And cometh from afar:     
        Not in entire forgetfulness,     
        And not in utter nakedness,     
But trailing clouds of glory do we come      
        From God, who is our home:     
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!

--Wordsworth

Having had the privilege of fathering two sweet baby daughters, now I'm going to start to cry, because they are more grown up now...

 

Edited June 16, 2016 by tesuji

[zil]

19 minutes ago, tesuji said:

Baby's brains are hardly developed. I suspect they have forgotten everything and are basically clueless.

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3 Nephi 26:16 Behold, it came to pass on the morrow that the multitude gathered themselves together, and they both saw and heard these children; yea, even babes did open their mouths and utter marvelous things; and the things which they did utter were forbidden that there should not any man write them.

These babies were not ventriloquist dummies.  I believe the capacity is there in every child, but laws prevent them from using it (perhaps even knowing about it), but that doesn't mean it isn't there, and it certainly doesn't mean they have no memory of, nor ability to see things which we have long forgotten.

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, tesuji said:

I think it might be common for Mormons to think babies remember things from heaven. I am skeptical. Baby's brains are hardly developed. I suspect they have forgotten everything and are basically clueless.

I hope I'm wrong, because it's nice to think they might remember heaven. Maybe someone can point out to me when church leaders have said that babies remember heaven.

No, I can't point to any particular scripture or prophetic declaration. I can say that one of my religion professors said,"If you believe that the veil is placed 100% at one instant at birth, you don't understand why babies can't speak."

For my personal experience, I actually remember being extremely young.  I was young enough that I couldn't walk yet and I was still nursing.  I had no recollection of heaven at that time.

What I do remember is that the concept of "communication" was known to me.  And I also recognized that I was unable to achieve it for some reason.  I was thinking the concept,"If only I could tell her..."  But I honestly can't remember what I needed to tell her.  The feeling, though, was that I had some discomfort or something that needed attending to.  I don't even remember that she was my mother.  She was the one who fed me.

[tesuji]

1 hour ago, zil said:

These babies were not ventriloquist dummies.  I believe the capacity is there in every child, but laws prevent them from using it (perhaps even knowing about it), but that doesn't mean it isn't there, and it certainly doesn't mean they have no memory of, nor ability to see things which we have long forgotten.

Well, I certainly believe that everything from before is still recorded in our spirit/minds, but we have the veil blocking all that right now

And that the Spirit can give utterance to things beyond our normal mortal ability

 

Edited June 17, 2016 by tesuji

[cdowis]

14 hours ago, Carborendum said:

 

A friend of mine shared an experience when he was at a ward picnic.  They heard some music playing somewhere.  It wasn't bad music.  In fact, it was quite pleasant.  But it was distracting them from their socializing.  He described it as fairly quiet and pleasant.  But he and several others could clearly make out a musical sound of some sort.  But none of them were able to reproduce any tune or notion of what the music sounded like.

They went on a hunt around the area to see if the perpetrators would mind turning down the music.  They went quite a distance all around and found that no one was playing any music.  What's more, they didn't notice any change in volume no matter where they walked.

At the end, they concluded that they were hearing the angelic chorus.  They decided NOT to ask the perpetrators to turn it down.

-- This was not third hand, but second hand.  It was my roommate from college with whom I still keep in contact to this day.  I believe him.

 

I think this is what he is talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sound+in+the+sky+around+the+world+

[Guest]

6 hours ago, cdowis said:

I think this is what he is talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sound+in+the+sky+around+the+world+

Well, that's interesting and all, but, no.  This happened probably around 1990 or so (possibly in the 80s).  And it was not a rumbling nor a booming.  He described it as a gentle music with a tune and everything.  But he just wasn't able to mimic it.

Edited June 17, 2016 by Guest

[Blackmarch]

On June 16, 2016 at 4:55 PM, zil said:

These babies were not ventriloquist dummies.  I believe the capacity is there in every child, but laws prevent them from using it (perhaps even knowing about it), but that doesn't mean it isn't there, and it certainly doesn't mean they have no memory of, nor ability to see things which we have long forgotten.

I think both of you are right. The body isnt developed, but the spirit is. Id wager that if the veil is taken away at that point the persons spirit has access to prior experience and knowledge to use... I suppose if necessary in finding ways to overcome the limits of the bodys current state of development.