Should L.D.S. support rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple?

Do you support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple?  

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  1. 1. Do you support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple by Jews... and for Jews?

    • Yes..... every word in Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 must come to pass.
    • No..... this could cause a war in the Middle East.... and each human life is a temple potentially for the Holy Spirit.
    • Yes
    • No
    • I am not certain.... but I am going to research this question further.

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On my Facebook wall I posted the following statement this morning....... ....

"Could Latter day Saints play a major ambassadorial role between Christianity and Judaism? Latter day Saints would tend to take the testimony of near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava very, very seriously whereas a significant percentage of Orthodox Christians would tend to be offended by what he experienced. Personally.... I consider that Rabbi Alon Anava's near death experiencer reminds me of Matthew chapter four and his conclusions and teachings afterwards remind me of Matthew chapters five, six and seven. I have asked myself if perhaps Rabbi Alon Anava could be the final Elijah or perhaps another extremely important latter day figure?" And I got back this brilliant response from one of the most prolific writers living in Israel......



Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz: .... "Well, considering that the Mormons are one of the very few sects that have never killed, exiled, or set out to target Jews for conversion, maybe they are the key." (Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz)


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Please imagine Latter day Saint young guys..... involved in a proposed treaty between the LDS and the nation of Israel........ .and two Latter day Saint young guys........ are in a Sumo style circle..... .if they can push the two or three or four young Israeli girls out of circle... .these LDS missionaries to Israel........ serve the time in the IDF for these Israeli girls????????? This idea has serious artistic value.... .and diplomatic value.......... and yes.. .economic value..... this is one that ......  may be interested in.........
Dennis Tate
tremendous pressure would be on these young Latter day Saints to represent their church with honour.... and wisdom.... and courage...... and defend Israel like Samson did......
And the REFEREES for this event should be from Japan....
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...... "Israeli girls are NOT obligated to serve in the army, if they do it’s only two years.
Marriage age was moved up to 18, so many religious girls break the rules and with their young religious husbands have to run from the secular police
I remember a couple 15 and 17 that were on the run, they eventually escaped to France where she stayed with his five kids and he returned alone" ( )

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On 9/7/2018 at 11:43 PM, Just_A_Guy said:

My understanding is that the mainline LDS position is that the LDS Church will be the ones spearheading the reconstruction of the temple foreseen by Ezekiel.  But seeing as how the Church appears to have no immediate plans to bring that to pass, I say the Jews are welcome to try it if they can.  If it brings about political instability leading to the end times — so much the better, as far as I’m concerned (I’m feeling a bit misanthropic at the moment, so apologies if I sound a bit flippant).


I have got to send you a personal message with some of the messages by a Mr. Aryeh Ben Menashe regarding the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight.....


but for the moment.....


I believe it was December of 1990..... but it could have been around December of 1991....
I was close to suicide.....
I had a bullet in the chamber of our 30.30......
I wanted to go to hell to find Azazel... whoever Azazel was..... and
i wanted to convince him to go to heaven........ and talk to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus about the hidden meaning in Leviticus 16:10 in the original Hebrew of Leviticus 16.......

I was praying and I had what might have been an open vision... but it had some similarities to a near death experience........
I saw a being who looked like the proverbial Pan..... human face... horns like a goat.... lower body like a goat.... around seven feet tall.... skinny......
torso of a man.....
He said to me.... "What doest thou here Elijah?"
I looked to the right and saw darkness... I looked to the left and saw darkness.... then I clued that he meant me..... . and I took the bullet out of the chamber of the 30.30......

Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....



Can the national debt of the USA be paid off in one year?


I believe that it can and.....

I have a theory on how the USA national debt could very simply be paid off
and I can think of several individuals who already have groups behind them who
are in a unique position to pull this off......
For example... President Russell Nelson of the Latter day Saints has fifty thousand
zealous young Mormons even now during a COVID 19 pandemic reaching out to
the lost to the best of their ability.......

and his church could scratch up somewhere around a hundred billion dollars if they ran into a potential
investment that he and the twelve prophetic leaders of the LDS movement agreed upon.

There are about sixteen million Mormons on this earth so I believe that a brilliant statement
made by Moses applies to them in a special way:

If the Latter day Saints were to create a new currency entitled perhaps the "Latter day Saint Volunteerism Hour" they could use it to pay off the national debt of the USA.... and even finance the artistic fulfillment of everything written by Moses........ for as many aspiring Noahide actors and actresses willing to take a step toward Judaism.......

President Nelson..... the population of Latter day Saints have reached the critical mass making the fulfillment of the "White Horse President Prophecy" possible...... .but it may be wiser to approach this from the angle of "The White Horse First Lady"......

"And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do." (Genesis 11)

Ecclesiastes 10:19
"A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. "

Could it be possible for money to answer.......ALL modern world problems???????????!

Beautiful recap of President Nelson's talk in the Women's Session of General Conference.

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On 9/10/2018 at 9:54 PM, cathyyg said:

This will happen when God wants it to happen, and support or opposition from any group of people whatsoever is irrelevant.

In a more practical vein, Jews do not practice biblical Judaism. They practice Rabbinic Judaism. The Levitical laws pertaining to to ritual purity for priests and sacrifices in the Temple have, as much as is practical, been converted to Oral Law commandments for the masses or reinterpreted as applying to all Jews, not just the kohanim, the high priests. The home has replaced the Temple as the holy place for those commandments. There is no actual need or purpose for a Temple. Prayer and repentance has replaced animal sacrifice as a means of atonement, and Judaism ever going back to animal sacrifice is very improbable. 

That is a commonly held belief but it flies in the face of the question asked of the Prophet Elijah when he fled from Queen Jezebel's armies?


Could the prophet Elijah have altered history if he had NOT...

... RAN AWAY from Queen Jezebel and her armies?

In 1979 I was at the Worldwide Church of God Festival of Tabernacles / Sukkot in Charlottetown, P. E. I., (at least that is what it was called back in those days)..... .and a Pastor gave a sermon on I Kings chapter 18........ and added some bonus material.

His theory was that Elijah...... had a window of opportunity to set in motion a series of events that would have led to the restoration of the Northern Kingdom of Israel........ but....... in order to do it he had to NOT RUN AWAY TO MT. HOREB???????






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Although I am Canadian and no expert at all on events in the USA... it does seem rather obvious that the USA is on the brink of something resembling a Civil War... .sort of.

I wrote something that I am hoping could be helpful to some gifted experts on this whole situation, (I am just a janitor who reads a lot).

Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 :

... "Jesus said that this unbelieving world is not going to accept you, but He said, “Do not fear, for I have overcome the world.” What is it that is bothering you today? You might not think that you have access to the Father, but it has been provided to you. You might think that you cannot just go to the Father and ask Him for something. The first thing you should ask the Father is to open your eyes. Your relationship with God is going to drive out fear. You have to grasp that God is not limiting you. He has never limited you. The Holy Spirit came on the Day of Pentecost and took the ceiling off. You can go as high and as far as you want.

If you would believe, God would give you the ability to completely pay off our national debt. God has a way of paying off our debt in our country. There is a way to do it. God knows that secret. But instead of focusing on our country, what about focusing on your bills? What does the Holy Spirit want to tell you by pulling back a veil that will cause you to be debt-free within the year? That will happen if you believe. The Holy Spirit has so much more for you, but you have limited Him. Because you have limited Him, He can’t speak to you. Because of that, people that are prophetic can’t come to you and confirm what God has said because you won’t hear it.

You can trust God. Relationships that you are having trouble with can be resolved tomorrow morning. If you accept what God is saying, the Spirit of God will enforce a blessing in your life to the point where you will see your family members and friends start to respond. " (Dr. Kevin Zadai, Prayer Secrets Level 1, Warrior Notes School of Ministry, lesson 4 )

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My own answer to the following poll can be known by the asterix.....


Can the national debt of the USA be paid off in one year?

Can the national debt of the USA be paid off in one year?



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    No.. it will take seven years and Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight must be prepared for.

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    By this do you mean that the national debt of the USA is partly a practical joke???????

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 .... what I volunteered for back in 1990 really scared me back then.... and I did not expect to still be alive in 2020... but here we are...... Now I feel that since our thirty years are up on Yom Kippur 2021 we need to discuss mentoring others to take over as a group of volunteer Yom Kippur goats........ Both Jewish scholars as well as Latter day Saint scholars could be quite interested in tackling this much as we did.... but of course Jewish thinkers will approach this somewhat differently than a Latter day Saint will tend to do......





Dear Dennis,
This event for me started in Norway when Time Magazine interviewed Arafat on a plane, Arafat saying he would take the line off their constitution saying Israel must be thrown in the sea. I saw the possibility for Peace as did many others.
Unfortunately I also noticed that when it came to finding the ways of God, I could rely on no one. So, being from a very privileged class, I told God, that I was not interested in all his gifts, I only wanted to serve him. I also told him that it was his decision if he would reveal to me my path or not. If he did not reveal it to me then I had no obligation what so ever to play his game (hang around on this fantasy world, where people always had a second motive for their actions).
I chose as a sign that he would send me a hand written note with a 17 on it. No matter that I didn’t know Hebrew at the time, I would study that note until I understood it. Only this would I believe. In the mean time: I WOULD GO INTO THE DESERT TAKING NO WATER AS A YOM KIPPOUR GOAT AND IF I DIED DOING SO, it was his responsibility not mine, I could at least carry some sins off for mankind.
What follows next is a series of miracles including traveling back to Jerusalem with Bob Simon (of blessed memory) and his film crew. I returned to the western wall and there someone sold me a book in English for 5,-₪ with this Hebrew letter on its cover.
My goat offering was probably accepted because my duffel bag fell off me into the canyon by the Dead Sea at the most dangerous point of my journey. As I left that spot I found a long goat horn, from a goat that had certainly lost its life at that very place. I had travelers checks in the bag so I was able to retrieve some of the losses. This is a short account of what happened. I was 27, it was the very day of the signing of the Oslo Peace Accords and the first day of the first Intifada.
Mordecai Spiro


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Once a discussion is on page five... there is a level of privacy that allows for somewhat greater artistic freedom there.... This morning I got the question.....


do you think the angels sin has to do with the existence of evil today


Near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai was shown that Covering Cherub Halel ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil....... even though it was not for him to eat. In Latin his name was translated as Lucifer.

I could be wrong.... . and my apologies to whatever degree I am in error.... but the name "Azazel" is in Leviticus 16:10 and I suspect strongly.... that whoever Azazel is he will play a role similar to General Abner who led the northern kingdom of Israel, the ten tribes..... over to King David......

I suspect that the long term plan of G-d for Azazel will be that he will be like an Apostle Paul who persecuted Christians and Jews and anybody led by G-d for millennia... but..... at the time of a modern Yom Kippur event.... he will repent... .and the kingdom of Satan will be divided..... and will fall.

I have reason to believe that a step was taken in that direction back in 1990......

My dad passed on January 1, 1990 and by Yom Kippur of that year I offered to
become a "volunteer Yom Kippur goat" ... .whatever that meant.... .and I would come back an infinite number of times..... and I would pay off the debt / guilt of Azazel.......
and expand the kingdom of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus into the realm of the afterlife / Hades that Azazel has been in.......


I would truly be honoured if you would ask any difficult question that you can think of in this discussion......

Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....


DennisTate said: 
I have decided to submit my own audition
because in either 2001 or 2002 I was given valid
reason to wonder if I had participated in a major
"appeasing of the wrath of the L-rd" event back in
1990 - 1995????

For the record.... I am convinced that the G-d of Abraham/ HaShem/ YHWH
obeys H-s own advice and is raising up at least seven or eight
major Elijah types of leaders at this time in history.

If my understanding is correct, from Yom Kippur 2016 to the day before
Yom Kippur 2017 may be the real Jubilee year in which the stage can be set
for the paying off of all the national and personal debts of Israelis...... and all of her
true allies.

This may sound strange..... .but I would absolutely love it if you would compete with me...... "a film devoid of conflict is boring" (R. W.)

Yom Kippur/ The Day of Atonement, ten days of awe and national repentance.

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Please feel total freedom to criticize anything in what I wrote that The Holy Spirit tells you is off somewhat........
it is very important that I allow the Holy Spirit to get the flies out of my ointment before I go into the next phase of my life.......

The least Christian should have at least something of a "John the Baptist" calling on their lives.......

After all the strange praying that I've done especially since 1990.... I have a view on the To Do List of the final Elijah that is different from the average Christian......

Who broughtest down kings to destruction, and brokest easily their power in pieces, and the glorious from their bed. [7] Who heardest judgment in Sina, and in Horeb the judgments of vengeance. [8] Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. [9] Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. [10] Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob.

Near death experiencer Dr. Kevin Zadai was shown that the Book of Enoch should be taken seriously...... details about who Azazel was is in there...... he was "king of the Watchers"... .and he was a "son of G-d".....

I believe that the final Elijah in his calling to "Restore all Things" may be involved in the repentance of Azazel king of the Watchers..... in the division and fall of the kingdom of Satan.... and the fall of the kingdom of Satan.......

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An obvious question comes to mind.....  does the "restoration of all things" include The Temple of King Solomon being restored?

Does the "restoration of all things" include the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight so that the deserts of the land of Israel are turned green?


"And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things."

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Will a percentage of Latter day Saints soon wish to behave somewhat more like Jews on the annual Jewish Holy Days?

Would this be especially true for Latter day Saints who in the near future may live in Israel?

13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

15 aAnd so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16 ¶ And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.



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So why might a significant number of Latter day Saints be welcomed to live in Israel?

Perhaps because many Jewish scholars know that the time is coming for Jewish scholars to do outreach to the Gentile nations and...... Latter day Saints are in a position to assist with this important project.


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