PeteT Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 Any help on finding a quote, something about God thinks nothing unless he does it. Or God takes nothing into his mind save he accomplishes, or something of that nature. Famous-ish quote, but can't seem to find it. Quote
zil Posted January 29, 2019 Report Posted January 29, 2019 9 hours ago, PeteT said: Any help on finding a quote, something about God thinks nothing unless he does it. Or God takes nothing into his mind save he accomplishes, or something of that nature. Famous-ish quote, but can't seem to find it. It's a scripture: Quote Abraham 3:17 Now, if there be two things, one above the other, and the moon be above the earth, then it may be that a planet or a star may exist above it; and there is nothing that the Lord thy God shall take in his heart to do but what he will do it. See also Numbers 23:19: Quote 19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? Good verses. wenglund, Vort, PeteT and 2 others 4 1 Quote
PeteT Posted January 30, 2019 Author Report Posted January 30, 2019 Haha, duh. Abraham. Thanks!! zil 1 Quote
zil Posted January 31, 2019 Report Posted January 31, 2019 Reactions keep bringing me back to this, and so I thought I'd share some additional thoughts on these verses: Quote Abraham 3:17 Now, if there be two things, one above the other, and the moon be above the earth, then it may be that a planet or a star may exist above it; and there is nothing that the Lord thy God shall take in his heart to do but what he will do it. Quote Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? I have come to believe that these verses describe what I will call Godly faith. Our faith is (supposed to be) in Jesus Christ - we are to act trusting that what he says is true and right, that our obedience will bring about the results he promises. But I believe God's faith is inherent in himself and requires omniscience - some say that omniscience would nullify any need for (even capacity for) faith - that once you know, you don't have or need faith (and they quote Alma). But I believe what the Lectures on Faith teach - that the faith of an omniscient being is represented by the bold bits above - to carry out all you have said, to act fully expecting (even knowing) that the intent of your action will be accomplished: Quote Lecture 1... 13. ...But faith is not only the principle of action, but of power also, in all intelligent beings, whether in heaven or on earth. Thus says the author of the epistle to the Hebrews, 11:3 -- 14. "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God; so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." 15. By this we understand that the principle of power which existed in the bosom of God, by which the worlds were framed, was faith; and that it is by reason of this principle of power existing in the Deity, that all created things exist; so that all things in heaven, on earth, or under the earth exist by reason of faith as it existed in Him. 16. Had it not been for the principle of faith the worlds would never have been framed neither would man have been formed of the dust. It is the principle by which Jehovah works, and through which he exercises power over all temporal as well as eternal things. Take this principle or attribute -- for it is an attribute -- from the Deity, and he would cease to exist. 17. Who cannot see, that if God framed the worlds by faith, that it is by faith that he exercises power over them, and that faith is the principle of power? And if the principle of power, it must be so in man as well as in the Deity? ... When I reach out my hand to pick up something, I'm acting in faith. I've done it a zillion1 times before. I know it will work (though really, I assume it will work again). Sometimes I wonder why we (or just I) don't dare to exercise this principle of power far more, and for far greater things - I sense there is unspeakable power there, waiting to be used - sure, lacking omniscience causes doubt, but there are things I know that I don't dare... Anywho, just some light thinking on faith and power and omniscience... 1Heh heh, zillion. JohnsonJones 1 Quote
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