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Technically you must be legally married "first" to be sealed. (NOW) In the US this occurs at the same time but as pointed out by mormonmusic you must be legally wed first, in these other countries that don't accept a sealing as legal before being sealed. So as it stand right now You can be married to someone you're not sealed to But you cannot be sealed to someone you're not married to* *death and divorce complicate this. What i mean is 2 people with no intent of being legally wed cannot get sealed, and i believe (perhaps someone can shed some light on this) while you can do a sealing for your deceased parents, even if they where divorced, you can't seal your deceased great aunt Edna to her deceased live in boyfriend , even if they were together for life because they were not legally married.

I laugh because i agree with the cavalier attitudes. Absurd overreaching policy that i would ignore as well. Reminds me when my daughter tries to get her brother in trouble for saying the "H-word". I had to explain to her just because you can get in trouble at school for saying "I hate billy" doesn't mean your brother saying i hate broccoli at home will. Besides, from list of prohibited activities You wouldn't tell your son, sorry, you can't go tubing on our vacation. You're a boyscout. Would you? Though i do see the point about them calling it a young mens activity, to get around the scouting rules being an issue. I don't however think those rules apply when at home. Looks more like a we don't want get sued sort of thing to me.

Why is a Canadian so interested in USA politics and affairs? Nothing wrong with it, just wondering.

I won't post the pics but BYU museum of art collection has nudes. Those pics on the sight look like images from text anyone who takes A&P or Bio 101 would see. Believe it or not the first Mr Olympia was a devote Mormon

Another problem i have encountered was in the "mission field" where wards cover larger areas it wasn't very practical. Our young mens group was made up of ,2 guys from this town, another one from that town, one from 30 more miles down the road, one 2 cities to the north etc. For mutual activities, like playing basketball or volleyball it was no big deal. When they turned mutual into boy scouts the ones interested in the program had been a part of established troops in their home towns, with local friends. It was better, and more fun to be part of a local troop of friends you saw every day at school for the youth and more practical for the parents. Scouts killed our young mens program and IIRC after a few months of only 2 or 3 boys showing up they dropped it.

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Free will.

You know i never understood this "argument." Not to sound insensitive but if your body gets stretched out and sags to the point it makes the tattoo look bad, then the body part probably looks bad and most would want to hide it as well. plus old does not equal out of shape the body is quite resilient actually

Actually wanting to immigrate to one of the most conservative areas in the US with a unessential non conservative skill , is what put it in my mind. From my understanding (and i'm no expert) it is a quite difficult process, most "slots" going to families or or those who get sponsored through skilled job E.G. Doctors, engineers and can prove they can support themselves financially here. Piercer/tattoo artist would be a long shot from what i understand. Of course it could just be the "follies" of youth.

As Far As I Know=AFAIK

AFAIK you do have to be baptized, with proper authority to go there, that is why we have the temples.

What MOE said. It's a common misconception that church is a place for people to show off their righteousness. It's not, it's a place for us sinners (all of us) to learn and try to become better. Even if you don't want to/ not ready in this area that doesn't mean there are not other ways it could help. I can't tell you how many cigarettes i've smoked in the church parking lot over my life. I could have not gone until quit, but then i would just feed that old tired stereotype people leave to sin . If you want to go then go. You will not be the only person with sins, you will not be the only person not ready to repent. You could even consider yourself lucky that it's not visible.

I don't know about that. We do temple work I.E. Sealing, for people who would not "qualify" for Paradise. Yet as far as i know this is only valid for Celestial glory. So we would be wasting a lot of time, if being in spirit prison was an instant disqualification for celestial.

Think what wing is saying is that Spirit prison is for those who didn't have the gospel, those awaiting ordinances. While your post concentrated on the sinners. So spirit prison would include both Ted Bundy, and Mother Teresa. MLK, and Joseph Stalin.

Is this thread making you think of the 3 billy goats gruff as well?

Like i said before not everyone believes that but My father is my father. This is unchanging. He was a child himself, i have grown and become a father myself. But he being my father has not changed. Never will.

The sermon Joseph gave is in the gospel principles manual. edited Some people emphasize As in God was a man like us, followed the rules of his God to become exalted and have create worlds without end, have spirit children like we hope to accomplish. others emphasize As in he was always God, but played the role of Christ at one time.It's not really cut and dry, but i think the things both camps can agree on is that God was once a man, we don't know if he began that way or took it on but we know he was once a man. I would also point out eternal doesn't mean forever as per D&C 19

Sure it is. You asked what would traditionalist do today if they lived in bible times. Would they follow the prophet or have a "no need" attitude? The "no need" attitude comes from a belief that Christ fulfilled all, which they get from their mass produced scriptures. Let me give you an analogy. And a poor and oversimplified one at that. I have a 95 olds cutlass. I never take it to a mechanic. I have a Haynes manual (bible) that breaks everything down, so i can fix it myself. If it was December 1994 and my car was a brand new model i would take it in for every hickup. Because the manual was not written. I don't avoid modern mechanics because i'm against mechanics and therefor would not listen to them in the past. I avoid them today because i don't think they are necessary today.(for my model of car).

The people didn't have them. In a mass produced bible way. I don't think we have them now. As the Book of Mormon covers the new world, not the old.

I would think most would follow. Most who i have met who take issue with a modern day Prophets don't do so because they are against the idea(from an authority stand point), but because Christ came, because of the scriptures, because of the changing authority line/ time gap etc. The "no need" attitude is based on having scripture. So in biblical time, without a personal copy of the scriptures i think they would follow.

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Should have put a as it was meant to be light hearted. But the revelation was given because a bunch shaker teachings in the area prevented some converts from eating pork and many obstained from meat altogether. On top this the billions of animals slaughtered, are breed for that purpose. There are not many heards of wild cows and chicken roaming around and they wouldn't be if we didn't eat them. Also 16 million pounds of that beef comes from desert farms. Largest cow calf operation in the US with 44,000 head of cattle. Owned and operated by..... The church

d&c 49 Just saying