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Why is the Euro listed first, considering that it is stabler?

There is a nother consideration, aside from any philological ones. In a community of mainly adult converts, would Peter be talking of baptism at the age of eight, or would he be speaking of the cleansing power of water.

The Greek is anitypos- which is what the term "antitype" derives from. THis isn't a number.

Dravin is right. Words can have different semantic fields in another language. For example, the English "thing" doesn't mean "commandment" or "speech" but the Hebrew "dabar" includes all three.

And? I wish I could say that with confidence of the scholarly sources Talmage used. Psalm 82 is a classic example. Shall we take a look at it? They definitely are authoritative, but they weren't written with sound historical methodology in mind.

Were there a foolproof method of interpreting anything then, for instance, there would be no need for the discipline known as historiography, which examines how historians approach and interact with their sources. There are many approaches to interpreting the scriptures. Literary, historical, socio-rhetorical, comparative, philological, etc. ad nauseum. The key is finding which approach (or combination of them) to use. One method which I think yields fairly good results is to read through the early interpreters, Jewish and Christian. It helps to see how others percieved things. Last- but certainly not least- are spiritual methods: prayer, likening the scriptures unto ourselves, personal revelation, the Holy Ghost.

There is an interesting line of thought in the medieval Jewish commentaries on Amos. I think it has some merit in understanding the verse. As the whole chapter is filled with imagery of violence and destruction, the "secret" would be a decree of destruction or disater. It is revealed to the prophet in order for him to raise a warning voice, and if the people heed the warning, the decree would be annulled.

The word translated as "secret" is sod. Not sod as in certain hostile instructions of the English language, but, as the Concise Hebrew and Aramaic Lexicon of the Old Testaments puts it, a circle of confidants. From this developed an abstract, secondary meaning of something confidential, a secret if you will. What this verse says is that the Lord's council will carry out no plan without making the prophet privy to it at some point.

Which comes down to self-definition rather that cold, hard logic. If you can define yourself as monotheistic rather than politheistic, why can't we? The modern Orthodox Jewish view of monotheism is derived to a large extent from Saadiah Gaon, Maimonides, and a whole constellation of philosophers inspired by Greek, Muslim and Karaite teachings and polemics.

Fourth Bruce: In addition, as he's going to be teaching politics, I've told him he's welcome to teach any of the great socialist thinkers, provided he makes it clear that they were wrong. (They all stand up.) All: Australia, Australia, Australia, Australia, we love you. Amen! (They sit down.)

Calba Savua's Orchard: Did Saadia Gaon & Maimonides Believe in Eternal Marriage? This is a blogpost I wrote on one of the problems of "The Mortal Messiah." A source used by Elder McConkie was not only outdated, but it misinterprated primary sources as well, resulting in a very skewed presentation.

And? BTW, why are you cutting and pasting from something that isn't your own work without making that clear?

Right, but ancient believers did take anthropomorphisms literally.

The point is that Talmage relied heavily upon Victorian biblical scholarship, which scholarship is seriously outdated. There have been many discoveries and advances made since then which cast a significantly different light on the world of the Bible.

Perhaps, but what do you do with the heavy referencing of non-LDS works by Victorian scholars who obviously did not write in the temple?

To be honest, the scholarship isn't very good. Given the choice, I'd rather go with Talmage both on that and on spiritual insights.

Symbolic and adoptive senses were used inthe past just as frequently as the literal sense.

Why not Syria, where over 5000 have been murdered without recourse to a trial.

You guys really aren't trying very hard.

I think you've misunderstood. Sexual metaphors have been used to describe the mystical relationship with God fora very long time.

Yet Jews and Muslims feel that Trinitrian usage of "one" is a stretch. As I said in an earlier reply to you, there is nothing inherently more logical in your use of of "one" than there is in the LDS faith's.

This argument doesn't work too well if we look to the time before Christ was born.

What similarities do you mean? Tels? Why would they do so when most of the topography was different? City plans would have been adapted to the locale, circumstances, capacities and taste of the settlers. There is no indication that Lehi was an architect or a builder, or that they continued the massive Syrio-Phoenician tradition by the time they became numerous. I was born and raised in the Galilee. There are two villages built by Adygs, also known as Circassians. They came from the northwestern Caucasus after being brutally expelled by the Russian Empire. The Ottomans settled them along key frntiker outposts, mainly to keep the Bedouins in check. This is the old mosque in Rihaniya. It is built in a traditional Caucasian style, but it has some small differences. This is the more recent mosque in Kfar Kama. It is similar to the Circassian mosque in Amman, Jordan, which was constructed in 1961. How similar does it look to the Rihaniya mosque? This wasn't the only thing that changed. The historic villages of Rihaniya and Kfar Kama were built in an Adyg style (with local variations). All houses faced into a shared courtyard with the mosque in the center and together they formed a continuous wall used as fortification. Since 1948 the inhabitants spread out of the old village walls and built in an Arab style. The traditional architecture had all but vanished in less than 100 years! How similar was Abraham Lincoln's log cabin to the homes built by his Norfolk ancestors? A 19th c. Ukrainian Jewish shtetl did not look like a jewish village in the Yemenite highlands. Why, if by the time they became numerous most of them had never set foot in Judah? What do you mean by imagery? The BoM is silent on the topic, but contains some intriguing hints that they weren't the only ones. If we assume that there were locals with their own culture, Lehi's material culture could very easily have been absorbed in the predominant one, as is indeed the case with most Jews throughout history.

What I mean is that your definition is flawed.

Perhaps a better dictionary is in order.