Matt

I think you should. Lying for the Lord (or not bothering to check your sources) is bad. Stop him, before he does it again!

Gee, Bat. Looks like you'll never be a FARM(S) boy!

But Paul H. Dunn was not actually a church leader at the time, was he? I don't think? I remember thinking when I heard about this: "Oh, no, Brother Dunn! You have let the people who heard your words (or read them) down, you have let the Lord down, but far, far worse, you have let yourself down." I was just so very sad when it came out.

Here is my advice, for what it's worth: ahem! "RUN! RUN AWAY FROM HER! SAVE YOURSELF FROM 30 OR MORE YEARS OF MISSERY!!!! It's safer, believe me... :)

Tom Nibley? Is he of the Hugh B. "I am an expert, darn you" Nibley clan?

Umm... it unveils Mormonism?

Kevin, it would be worthwhile you being able to cite a valid refutation of Mormonism Unveiled. Merely saying: "Well, I just know it's wrong!" is not a good way to debate it. By all means, if you have something you can point to or to cite, please do.

And I think I saw a bit of flag waving, today...

The answer is simple. Within the next four years, convert it to being a full State of the Union. Instant success!

Ah. So we can deduce that murderers in the times of the Mosaic law are saved, but that modern day murderers cannot be saved. And how or why does this situation exist? Why should latter-day murderers (no pun intended) be worse off than those of an earlier time?

Nope! The government doesn't do that, either! There is a private charity that helps fund redundant churches. The Lotto does provide some funds, but those grants are hard to get. There may well be some government grants available, but these are also available to castles, old buildings and so on.

Well, see... there are some of us who remember what it was like being viewed as Mormon cannon fodder. I was flavour of the month (heck, the flavour of whole years!!!) until it became clear that, owing to a minor physical problem caused by a motorbike crash that I wasn't going to go on a mission. Then I was dropped like... well, just like someone who wasn't going on a mission. Sad, but that was the reality. So, some people who post here might not think: "Oh, how sweet!" They'd think: "Poor kid." Just my opinion.

If your dad is happy with it, then yeah, "hurray" fits the bill!

Hurray for your Dad!

Yo! Hold on their, Faerie! I don't think Bat was rude or beligerent!

Where did you get the quaint notion that the Church of England is funded by taxation? It is funded out of the contribution of members and by returns from investments. It gets no tax money.

I, however, had my name removed from LDS church records and was ordained as a minister of the Gospel. (True, as it happens. )

But you wouldn't really care if he decided not to go on a mission, right? Just so long as he is born a healthy, bouncing boy. Time enough in the future to consider filling his head with scripture and so forth. :) Hope all goes well. Don't over do things, don't make the common mistake of thinking you have to eat for two, don't... Hey. Sorry. Getting a little carried away, there!

But speaking from a theological point, he is right. And by the way, the composer of the tune is reported to have hated the words. And the Bishop has not banned it, merely questioned the use of it. The Bishop of the Church of England is probably equal to the Mormon Stake President. Mind you, I remember when the stake president of the stake I was in decided to try to ban all dances on the grounds that: "There's far too many 'fun' activities for the youth of the church. They should be sat at home reading their scrpitures and preparing for missions. And when they come back form their missions, they should be too busy getting married to think about going to dances." (I think he lost a lot of people with that last one, as holding dances might have been a useful way for RMs to meet their future Sister Right!

Why, they'd send it to the Church of Matt, of course! (Dollars accepted -US or Canadian- but Pound Sterling is prefered. Oh, and no Euro notes. Apparently there are far too many fakes out there! )

Ah, heck. Here's me a British Socialist defending the Capitalistic way of life! If he can make money, he'll spend it, or invest it. Either way he helps oil societies' wheels.

The death of a child thousands of miles away moves me. However, I feel more of a "connection" with a local death. (Did I know the family? Had I seen my kids playing with him/her? Do I know the killer? Etc., etc.)

I prayed that I would be given a knowledge that the LDS church was God's one true church. However, much to my shock (I was expecting to be told that it was) I was told by the Good Lord that it was not his one true church. That's a true story. I sometimes wonder what would have happened to me had I not bothered to pray. EQ pres? Bishop's counellor? Bishop, even? Who knows? Who can say... :)

Or you could say: "What luck that I only lost one eye, and not my other seven." (This would, cf course only really work if you were a spider, however...)

Prayer does work. But not always in the way you expect...