curtishouse

Sorry I didn't know it hit so close to home with you

How old is your husband exactly? Just asking since he left the church in 1886! Great story.

This person "forced himself on you"? That is rape. I'm sure he felt bad about it but first things first, you should have reported him to the police. Your faith seems to be slipping because you know what he did was wrong and instead of him being held accountable for his crime, they sided with the rapist. The statute of limitations is only five years though, I believe, so you still have a chance to report him. I would highly suggest it and once he is convicted, I bet your faith will be stronger as well. Don't let him be shielded behind his religion much like those of the Catholic faith who prey on young children.

I'll just go off what the Bible says about the antiChrist. Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. - 1John 2:22 This could be anybody. There are plenty of antiChrists out there. There isn't just one antiChrist. Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. - 2John 1:7

It seems that some are taking this all wrong. You ever hear that any publicity is good publicity? South Park is so popular, it's unreal. There could really be some people out there that watch the play or listen to the songs and such if they come out and wonder if this is really what the Book of Mormon says. They could even get in touch with missionaries and ask them questions. This could really be a good thing despite Matt Stone and Trey Parker's bad intentions. God makes good out of bad all the time. The human race is a prime example of that! :)

What I mean by eternal progression is exactly the same as you believe. Eternal progression applied to God as well, did it not? God does not progress when He is God but didn't he progress from being a man to becoming a God? Are there steps in between being a man and becoming a god? All I'm trying to do is understand this verse. I might be misunderstanding but it sounds like you're being defensive. I hope that isn't the case though. There is no need to be. The main point of the question was this. If God started as a man and eventually became God, how is He unchanging? Was He only unchanging after He reached Godhood?

He doesn't. I guess what it comes down to is this...Did God used to be a man? If yes, then I have questions. If no, nevermind.

I saw a post about this on a different forum and I was wondering about people's thoughts on this verse. If eternal progression is true, how can God be unchanging? Is this speaking of when God has become God and not a time before this before He progressed to Godhood? I'm really trying to understand this and maybe somebody can shed some light on this. God bless. For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity. - Moroni 8:18

Never watch Orgazmo. I watched it in my younger, stupider days...It's completely perverted and disgusting. Just exactly what you would expect from the creators of South Park.

South Park makes fun of everybody and, actually, their episode about Mormonism was pretty funny. The closest thing to offensive was when they were talking about Joseph Smith and, in the background music, it kept saying, "Dum dum dum dum dum..." I have my doubts about the play being that nice however.

I know how that is. Thank God for this three-day weekend!

How does abiding the rules in the Missionary Handbook correlate with things the Lord asks you to do? The handbook is not Scripture or inspired text (or do you feel it is?). How could you possibly compare the rulebook of Missionary conduct with the Ten Commandments? I'm not trying to come off stern but I'm just trying to get this new information to sink in. How is the Missionary Handbook on the same level as the Ten Commandments?

I don't think that the two have to be mutually exclusive. You can both abstain from all form of evil as well as abstain from doing things that be construed as evil. I'm really not thinking about drinks. If I have a cup of water and they think its vodka, I couldn't really read their mind. If one asks what I'm drinking, I would be sure to tell them it was water but, other than that, you really can't tell whats going through somebodys mind. It is much different than living with someone of the opposite sex when both are not married which could easily be viewed as having a sexual relationship even if that isn't so. But, to be truthful, when two people of the opposite sex are living together, that's just a powderkeg waiting to explode and would just end in disaster. I'm sure there are exceptions to this out there but its just playing with fire, Scarecrow. In your opinion, the KJV translation is not the best translation for 1Thes 5:22. It is all up to interpretation and this is a prime example why God left Prophets. There are so many ways to understand this and this is just dealing with one verse! No wonder there is mass confusion in the thousands of denominations of Christianity. Without God's Prophets helping to explain the Word of God to us, we are basically just fumbling in the dark and reaching our own conclusions regarding Scripture.

I didn't see that horrible list that somebody posted earlier. I am guessing that it was immediately deleted and the user banned hopefully. We all should be showing love and compassion. It seems that this thread has derailed into something that really isn't Christ-like imo. We all have our feelings on the subject and we all are willing to share our opinions but, with the love removed, it is nothing but the old game of "I'm right and you're wrong" above everything else and I've had more than my fair share of tasting it in other forums and it's way too bitter. I definitely feel for those that were so depressed and felt that the only solution was taking their own lives so the pain would go away. That is why love and compassion are so important. It's all well and good to be well versed in doctrine but, if the love doesn't accompany it, it is of no use to the world and we wont be able to help anybody. Just something to think about. God bless.

I'm not saying that thinking lustful thoughts are not a sin. They are most definitely sin as well. What I am saying is those that are attracted to the same sex is not a sin in itself. Just because one is attracted to the same sex doesn't mean they are thinking lustful thoughts about the same sex just as those that are attracted to the opposite sex doesn't mean they are thinking lustful thoughts as well.

Please list these scriptures that speak of being attracted to the same sex without any action following it a sin. Being attracted to the same sex is not a sin; acting on those feelings are. If you can find any Scripture that speak of the contrary, I would love to hear it.

Nope...Were all in the imagination of an autistic kid in his snowglobe.

I never said that I speak for God but questions like these are good to ponder and pray about imo. (James 1:5)

Free will is what separates us from the animals. Being homosexual isn't what would "cosign their eternities to the realms outside of his kingdom." It is the act of homosexuality (as well as fornication) that does. The question has to be asked though. Why would God create homosexual animals as well as human beings?

Aside from the sugar substitute that is used can cause cancer later in life if consumed enough...no nothing wrong at all.

If you believe it's a choice and not genetic, then what of animals that are homosexual and perform those acts? List of animals displaying homosexual behavior - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which part are you referring to? If you mean about the missionaries, it wasn't so much of a worry as just trying to understand why it takes place as it does. If you are talking about the "appearance" of evil vs. every "form" of evil, I wouldn't consider that petty in the slightest.

I'm sorry but what are you referring to?

As this thread continues to get bigger and bigger, I think it would be a good idea to post what has already been covered thus far if one that has read this thread thoroughly is up to it. I know that I'm not going to go through six pages of posts before I write my opinion on the matter. This is solely my opinion but the "it's the choice" theory is a load of bunk. You have as much "choice" to choose the gender you're attracted to as the heterosexual does and that would be absolutely none. Also, why would those that love the Lord and are trying their hardest to do good "choose" to be attracted to the same sex if that was possible? That makes no sense whatsoever.

How exactly would it be "turned off'? The important thing to remember is that the act of homosexuality is a sin and not necessarily being attracted to the same sex. If all members of the faith agree on this, that is a tremendous step forward and we should support those with this cross to bear just as any other who are single and are trying to overcome fornication, lustful thoughts and behavior.