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He wasn't even talking about that... He was talking about God's unconditional love. It's one thing to know God loves you, and another to think God loves you unconditionally. To think God loves us unconditionally would only encourage a sinful attitude--If God loves me no matter what in the world I do, be it direct denial of the Holy Ghost after having a perfect knowledge or killing innocent people, I can continue doing whatever I want. He'll love me anyway. How exactly DOES the unconditional thing help you? Does it not say that God will judge the people according to what He has given them? If they were born in islam and died in islam, they'd be judged according to what he had knowledge of. So obviously, blessings in this life still go to those who don't have all of the knowledge they need. Now, if someone had all the knowledge from God, and then decided to go other ways... Of course, the goodness and blessings wouldn't be too easily accessible. Eternal Damnation is a major point in the thread... If God loves us unconditionally, why does he eternally damn us, not wanting anything to do with us anymore? Is condemning Lucifer to eternal suffering and destruction truly an act of love for him? Throwing him out of His presence, damning him to endless torment, and not wanting anything more to do with him seems to suggest it. If not, what does it suggest? Knowing that God loves us gives us warm fuzzies, and yes, that's a good feeling. However, "knowing" that he loves us "unconditionally" would give us warm fuzzies even if we're in a state of apostacy and we continue going downhill. That would be a false sense of the love of God, if you asked me. "He still loves me, even though I'm fornicating and have no plans to stop . Yay warm fuzzies!" -- It only lets people deceive themselves. Even some crime lords pray to God to help them with whatever they're doing. They're apparently semi-delusional with the whole unconditional love thing. I believe He loves us even when we aren't doing what we should be doing-- However, I feel like I will not be able to truly feel his love if I don't repent of what I'm doing. He always wants us to improve and do better, but his love must be conditional if there is a possibility of Him damning you to eternal destruction.

I'd like a blessing to help me make my teeth whiter now please. Thank you.

I don't think the people that haven't been in the situation before really know what they're saying or just how hard this is. Hence why I love WMLee's post. This kind of thing is heartbreaking, and it tends to keep the heart broken for decades afterwards. We can say "it's YOU" as much as we want, but if you haven't been in that situation, I don't feel like you can understand. Chastity is a big thing with the Lord. So obviously, it would be a big thing with the spouse. An enormous thing. You cannot help but feel the complete injustice when you find out your partner lost their virginity before they met you or before you got together while YOU stayed faithful. One ponders in how they could have had fun and messed around in their youth like their spouse did, and then apparently so easily receive forgiveness from the Lord. As my bishop once said: There are some sins that have serious repercussions for the rest of your life. If you have pre-marital sex, you can become forgiven, but your virginity doesn't come back. If you kill someone, in certain circumstances you can be forgiven but the person doesn't come back to life. Some sins bring long-lasting and unavoidable consequences, and for the person that commits them, they should be prepared for them. Hence the life long "sting" that WMLee was talking about, and probably should have been expecting. You can't honestly have pre-marital sex and then expect your future spouse to be totally down with that. I'd not be a happy camper if I married someone and 5 other guys could see our wedding announcement and say they had "tapped that". Definitely not. Is it so wrong to wish your spouse had waited for you? It's got that romantic ring to it, like it's what would really happen in all the real love stories. It's what God's original plan was, anyway.

That sounds a lot like the people I taught as a missionary that were living together... "We're pretty much already married, we just don't have the paper"... Or worse, the ones that had a bad first marriage, never divorced, and just ended up living with someone else. They all swore to us that it wasn't adultery because their marriage was dead, so they could still get baptised. But church doctrine is that no, it's not dead, because they're technically, and in a sense officially, married. So they couldn't get baptized until they cleared it up. Just a thought. You should probably talk to your bishop though.

He may love sinners but that doesn't necessarily make his love unconditional.

It is the original church restored to the earth and subject to modern revelation about how God wants his church organized. Times are significantly different, and our Father continues to reveal to us how to deal with the oncoming storm. It's why one prophet at one point in time is not sufficient for all time. More prophets were obviously needed because times change and we're always confronting problems we haven't had to confront before. That way, we keep moving forward from the additional revelations and guidance from God.

That would probably be best. Making yourself known to him right now would just be weird. Although you could try it... How soon does he get back?

That happened to a companion of mine on the mission, and yeah, that definitely freaks the missionary out a little bit haha. And that's weird about the whole super crush on little brother thing. A lot of people don't take that very well.

My little brother started fasting with us when he was 6, just because he wanted to. My parents never made us fast, they said it was our choice, but we all ended up choosing it anyway. Well, most of the time. For me, to help me get through the fast, I have to keep remembering why I'm fasting, and sometimes I repeat "the spirit governs the body..." haha

I believe that depends on several different things. For the person who has already been through the endowment session 100 times and pretty much has it down by memory, they can be thinking in other things, and obviously will probably recieve revelation just by simply being in the House of the Lord. Most people are just going through the steps to save our kindred dead and already have it memorized, and so their minds would obviously be on different things. I think the Lord understands that. But for someone who's going the first time, they should probably be paying complete attention. There's a lot to learn the first few times. As for me, I've always received my revelation in the celestial room, after the session, while pondering the questions or concerns I've had recently. During the actual ceremony, I've only ever received revelation in the sense that I was learning more about what the endowment session has to teach us(or how I could apply what I'm learning there to my personal/professional life).

That's the thing -- as the general authorities have said, God gives us a "Best" option, "Better" option, "Good" option, etc, and we have Satan's plans as well. There isn't ONE option, but you want to go with Plan A. That doesn't mean you're going to divorce if you marry the B option. Which brings the question to mind... If there isn't ONE option, why does everyone keep telling me that our families chose eachother in the pre-earth life?(Like I chose my parents, and my parents chose me) But I suppose that's a question for another topic.

My ex-girlfriend had the exact same thing happen to her a while ago. The spirit apparently confirmed to her, in the same way, that she was supposed to marry me. This was before my mission. She said if that wasn't the spirit, she's never felt the spirit before. I asked my bishop, and he said that it's probably all in her head. People don't get marriages confirmed to them before 2 year missions, or to people they still don't even know. God gave us intelligence and agency so that we'd use them, and then once we've done out part, he'd confirm to us what we're doing is right. Long story short, I got Dear John'd on my mission and I have no idea where she is now. It was apparently all in her head. I got that same feeling watching Star Wars episode 3... I hate to be a killjoy, but I'm incredibly skeptical about situations like this because of past experiences.

...or it could be your brain creating sensations due to a strong inner desire to be with someone/get married. It happens. One time a hypnotist hypnotized my friend and told him that a cardboard box was an 1,000 pound anvil, and then told him to lift it up. The kid struggled with all of his strength to move the cardboard "anvil", and couldn't do a thing. The mind is a powerful thing. I stand by what I said-if the prompting had nothing to do with the lesson, it probably wasn't a real prompting.

So I have a friend that says he once discovered the names of the three nephites(reading the book of mormon, and the institute manual of the book of mormon?) but he has since forgotten where he found them. He's 100% sure he knew their names, and he's not crazy. So the question is... Do we know their names, or no? 'cause if they're there, I don't know why I haven't seen it...?

I don't believe real spiritual promptings come when everything else you're thinking about and studying(ie, the lesson) has nothing at all to do with said prompting. If you're in a class, the spirit will probably give you promptings about the lesson and how you can use it. But if you're being taught tithing and then suddenly you feel like you should marry some guy you haven't seen in two years... Not really.

Mormon missionaries are not allowed to swim. =)

If you're not married and the making out didn't pass the "line" then no, it would only be shallow thinking...

That's so cool. My great great grandparents were horse thieves(that were eventually hanged). Yeah... I don't share my family history much =P

If you're married and you see an attractive woman, I'd say even dwelling on her would be a sin. You can't think about getting with other women if you're a married man--that's thinking about cheating on your wife. Now, if you think about pro-creation actions with this other woman, you're already committing the adultery in your heart. To me, all he's saying is that we need to be well disciplined. You can't dwell on garbage like that.

Who can resist the little girl with the cute english accent saying "please help save the world"? I certainly can't.

The U.S. does not actually have an official language, so no one is required to learn english. English is simply the language most commonly spoken. Although it should be made the official language =P

Yeah... that post made me "lol" haha. I would call that a myth...

Sometimes good people take hard falls. Look what happened to David. How could a prophet-king so highly favored by God commit adultery and murder?

...I just dreamt about Vort's wife. but I don't have any babies to sacrifice at the moment...

My father always said that santa would come every year at christmas time. Then he would grow out a beard and tell us that HE was santa claus. We all laughed like yeah right, dad's santa claus. He's so funny. And then I realized it was just a way to keep santa claus alive without lying to us. He actually was the fat, bearded guy that brought us presents... I thought I was brilliant when I figured that out XD. That was a long time ago...