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I just figured that since some are choosing to believe in something, that there is zero basis for, I could too.

I have been coming to these boards for over 4 years and not one mormon has ever tried to witness to me. Just and interesting fact. I have never heard a mormon tell me of something their god did that I couldn't duplicate.

You give yourself too much credit. The truth is that I used to be more open than I am now. Sometimes I volunteered information to you. But the truth is that I never told you anything that i didn't tell to those who came before you. I was on this board well over a year before you showed up. You do think highly of yourself don't you? Oh well if it's "accurate enough". You can assume anything you like. I already told you that it's not your business. Why not say "I'm rubber, you're glue"? I don't understand this logic: snow fabricates the truth so I have to be "nicer". Please explain this better to me. And the Loch Ness monster was his best man. Hard to figure out which comment is dumber huh? I have as much basis for saying what I did as you do for stating that Christ is married,

snow is under the impression that because I have attended meetings there, at the church he's talking about, that it is my home church. I visit my mechanic more often than I go to this church. He is also under the impression that because people like Benny Hinn are protestants that I believe everything they say. And he thinks that because I've had lunch with John Arnott that he is my pastor. snow has never actually been there. Probably 90% of what is written about that church is by people who have also never been there. All of his knowledge is, at best, 3rd or 4th hand information. snow's facts are not accurate. I have never attended an LDS meeting, and have no intention to do so. If I were to write about what goes on there, would you think my writings would be the least bit credible? I only know what I have experienced on this board, and with a limited number of discussions of mormons face to face. snow, and most of the people who bash that church, have not even done that much. They read what somebody else, who already have their preconceived notions, writes and draw conclusions before asking questions or speaking to anybody who have an important perspective. I think some of the quotes might be accurate, there are so many out there I really don't know anymore. If somebody recorded LDS leaders every time they spoke, just waiting for them to say something stupid, I'm sure we could get a lot of quotes too.

I may be mistaken, but it seems like he's noticed how most religious people see sex as something that is evil and shouldn't be talked about. I can't honestly disagree.

snow, I'm at the point where i don't know how to deal with the obscurity of your posts. So I won't even try. You can keep asking all you want, but I am not going to discuss this. If you don't like that, well it's not my decision how you choose to feel. Just save your time and stop asking. Tough luck.

Pornography is NOT the problem. Pornography is just another way for people to medicate their problems. I found that it was very destructive to my relationships with other women (if you can even call them relationships). I've seen so many people who think that if they just dump the porn they'll be ok. That's about as smart as trying to kill and apple tree by picking off all the apples, thinking they won't grow back. There is a reason why most recovering alcoholics pick up some other addiction when they give up the bottle. Personally, I think God jusdges the motives behind your service rather than your service itself. I do think that the work, you've told me, you with your wrestling students and all the other work you do is nothing short of fantastic.

Logic? If this is simple logic then why is sgallan the only one here who is making an intelligent argument about his POV? I don't agree with much of what he is saying, but he is doing much better in this debate than any of you are.

How many times do I have to say that it is not your business? Why can't you leave it at that? You need to learn to respect other people's "no". You have a boundary issue.

I have said numerous times that mormons see themselves as better than others. Comments like that just help to prove my point.

So you never served in any of these units? You just listened to their operations on the radio? Supported huh? So you waited until the dangerous work was over before coming in.I do wonder what you did discuss with them. If you used the word "rucksack" a SEAL would sharply correct you, as we don't use army words. Secondly, I have never once mentioned anything about a 300 lb pack. I have mentioned a total loadout weight when we were mentioning maximum jump loads. Parachutes, weapons, ammo, food, water, communications, and extra gear. I'm sure you would have received a much different response if you told them what I actually said. But I question the validity of your claims. Were you honestly so bored in a time of active war that you'd discuss a guy you talked with on the internet?

If Genesis' time frame was being literal then no there is no room for evolution. A non-literal time frame in Genesis wouldn't fit with how the rest of the book was written. As far as where..... where has civilization been tracked the longest? Where the world's history is the greatest is likely where you're going to find the answer.

You need to start reading what i actually write, and not read what you want me to say. Why don't you go back and read what I actually said. if you can think that you can say "good, you're going to hell" and then think that you follow Christ, I don't know what planet you are on. Maybe in Kolob that stuff is ok. That is one of the most anti-christ things you can say. So much for fulfilling the great commandment.Scott, You and I don't agree that dung stinks but I have to admit that I really admire your patience here. You have had person after person come along and insult your intelligence without any harsh words back. You've endured people talking down to you like you were a child. My admirations.

Lots of people feel that way. That is not your business. You seem so insistent on me answering this question. I am not interested as to why you are here. If you have a problem with that, well it's not my problem. If you have never served in a SOF unit, what makes you think you know what goes on? That's because you've never met me.

Now there it is!!!Translation: "If you don't believe what we believe, then to hell with you" This statement coming from the mouth of somebody who claims to be part of Christ's only true church. The more I stay here the more I see the true hearts of the LDS members. How do you say something like that and then try and claim to be a follower of Jesus? Where did Jesus ever advocate something like that. "Good, you will never dwell with God". If this is what the true church teaches, I'll stick with my false church. If that is what God wants people to say, I'm going to go stand beside sgallan.

So you want to merely change the behavior? All you want is for the apperance to be cleaned up. It is all about image to you and your church. When people, not an image, become your priority then I will consider mormonism to be a good thing. It's too bad that Jesus extended His hand to sinners, but LDS won't unless specific conditions are met. Some "true" church. It's obvious that you don't have the first clue to homosexuality. All it is, is a sin to you. Again, it's a performance/apperance-only thing with you. The bible teaches you get your worthiness from your identity in Christ.I guess you're all about the self effort. From your post I failed to see how Christ is at all important in your life. Your values are putting on a good show so you will be considered worthy. How can somebody claim to know Christ and still have that attitude?

Oh so you've had open conversations with God? What does He sound like? How do you make distinctions between God's voice and your own inner monologue? How do you determine His voice from the voices of darkness? Oh really, so you have experience in the medical field? Please tell me of them. And you said i made gross assumptions?

I'm going to nod my head and pretend that I understand what you are saying. The only thing you seemed to communicate is that homosexuality is equal to murder, gang life, and getting drunk.

When you see absurd statement after absurd statement, I felt that word was appropriate. I get frustrated when I see people basing their lives on what the mormon church says. I'll never understand how so many seemingly smart people can believe such ridiculous things. There aren't many stupid people that come through these board, but some of the smart people have some beliefs that I can only shake my head at.

I know my opinions mean little to nothing to you. I have not met many mormons who do care what a non-mormon thinks or says. Your church conditions you to walk around with your nose up in the air like you are better than everybody else, and it shows. Your church is just like all the others who claim to have what nobody else has. The single greatest proof that your church is NOT the way to God is to look at the attitudes of its members. You all are polite and respectful to each other, but it usually ends there. You dismiss those who don't think like you. Some of Jesus' greatest ministry was to those who were skeptical, you just want the skeptical to go away. It just bothers me that you act the way you do and then tell people you are Christian, because they then label me with the same characteristics.

With attitudes like Ray's, I know which church I will never find a homosexual. It's either homophobia or elitism.

That's because you think alike. So basically you guys are willing to put your faith in something that there is no biblical basis for, just because the possibility might exist?You guys are doing an excellent job at showing me that you want nothing to do with Christianity. You can keep your mormonism though.

So you have nothing of value to say. Your church has you wrapped around its finger. That whole statement is basically a statement saying you have no proof of anything. Luke 24:39 says that angels do not have bodies. But what does Jesus know?You know more than me? When are you going to start showing me? You have a lot of opinions that are unfounded. You claim to have all this knowledge and understanding yet i don't see most of you as anything more than puppets of your church, who say exactly what you're told to say. And you, of all people, should not go around saying how much more educated you are than others. You need to prove this before you start bragging it.

Are you joking, or are you being serious? That is so ridiculous I can't tell. She is so important that Jesus never even bothered to mention her. You make me laugh, thanks. Would it be worse that the names that have been given to God and Jesus? Doubtful. You need to learn to distinguish what was done because of the ways of the cultures of the time. I can hear the sound of the whip in the background. Go back and understand what I wrote before you reply. Your 'common sense' has given you the wrong impression many times. You are trying to fit the same God, who created the universe, into the little box of your own understanding and reasoning. I believe, about God, what was written many years ago and has withstood the test of time. This coming from you is funny. Yes.

You never cease to show me how idiocy doesn't have limits.What basis do you have for stating this? Angels are spiritual beings without any physical bodies. Only two have been distinct, in the bible. And since the only thing we know about them are their names. You have no basis for saying they are male and female because there is nothing in the bible, that I have seen, to indicate such. We are constantly given symbolic gestures to help us relate to heavenly beings, you just fail to distinguish that. You are full of answers, it's just too bad none of them are right. Biblical discussion doesn't seem to be the right thing for you.