MisterT

I'm sure you mean "insestual acts." I would agree, as long as the incest takes place between two consenting adults; I have a problem applying the 'same level' argument when the insestual act is between an adult and a minor child, as that is generally known as molestation; which I have no sympathy for in the slightest.

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"I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance." - Luke 5:32 Is the Church's advice to the homosexual any different than its advice to the heterosexual? The message is the same, that the act of sexual congress is excercising the power of creation, and should be excercised only within the bounds of a legal and lawful marriage.

How do you make ends meet? By living like a hobo; eating what a hobo wouldn't, driving what a hobo would turn his nose up at, and generally scraping to get by.

I'm stunned. And in sympathetic pain. I've seen limbs in akward positions like that before, but generally after someone landed a little too hard on an airborne drop...

you were a little slow in covering the windows; I was able to snap this photo this morning...

Wee bit paranoid there, aren't we... But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean I'm not spying on you...

Nah, I'll pass. Big targets aren't fun at all...

Divorce court would be more humane if instead of lawyers and courtrooms you were at the Colloseum and given spears, shields, nets, tridents, and a few lions to eat unwary Christians...

Originally from Southern CA, spent time all over the world while in the Army, 5 years in AZ, 5 in NE, one in IL, one in WI, one in MO, and one in CO after I got out. You?

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The problem is that they have the franchise of the vote; therefore they don't need to move away because they can, over long periods of time, utterly corrupt a system from within and steer it towards evil goals.

Its not!?! Foiled again! Drat you, BatPam!

Here's what a living Prophet of God had to say about communism and socialism. “...collectivism, another word for Socialism, is a part of the communist strategy. Communism is essentially socialism.” (Ezra Taft Benson) “Other officers in the kingdom have fallen, but never the Presidents. ‘Keep your eye on the Captain’ is still good counsel. The words of a living prophet must and ever will take precedence. President McKay has said a lot about our tragic trends toward socialism and communism and the responsibilities liberty-loving people have in defending and preserving our Constitution. Have we read these words from God's mouthpiece and pondered on them?” (Ezra Taft Benson, October 10, 1963.) “Since about the time of Woodrow Wilson, Fabian Socialists have been able to cuddle close to key people in our government and those who exercise influence. I will not take the time to trace their activities through the various administrations since Wilson’s time.” (Ezra Taft Benson, A Race Against Time, BYU Speeches, 1963.) “The scriptures make clear that there was a great war in heaven, a struggle over the principle of freedom the right of choice. In the war in heaven, what would have been your reaction if someone had told you just to do what is right—there's no need to get involved in the fight for freedom? Of course, the war in heaven over free agency is now being waged here on earth, and there are those today who are saying ‘Look, don't get involved in the fight for freedom. Just live the gospel.’ That counsel is dangerous, self-contradictory, unsound.” (Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, October 1966.) “It is time, therefore, that every American, and especially every member of the priesthood, became informed about the aims, tactics, and schemes of socialistic-communism. This becomes particularly important when it is realized that communism is turning out to be the earthly image of the plan which Satan presented in the pre-existence. The whole program of socialistic- communism is essentially a war against God and the plan of salvation—the very plan which we fought to uphold during ‘the war in heaven.’” (Ezra Taft Benson, Secret Combinations, Conference Report, October 1961.) “…our stand for freedom is a most basic part of our religion; this stand helped get us to this earth, and our reaction to freedom in this life will have eternal consequences. Man has many duties, but he has no excuse that can compensate for his loss of liberty.” (Ezra Taft Benson, Conference Report, October 1966.) I pity the foo who don't listen to Ezra T! He don't talk no jibba jabba nonsense! - Mr. T

Easy way to explain why socialisms rise leads to declining church attendance; put simply, you can't have two Gods that compete for the same spot. The State is God to the people, and The Father is nothing more than a fairytale, hardly worth telling. And with each successive generation, spiritual roots are torn from the ground, the cement and steel of state sponsored industry gradually takes over the places of worship, and the people struggle under a cruel bow before they are finally liberated; only to forget the lessons learned by failing to secure the freedoms and rights of each successive generation that follows.

Yo Braket, howya doin'? Now you quit that jibba jabba foo talk and get down wit da music!

Welcome, now quit that jibba jabba talk, foo!

No, but I've scene a few...

When I read the title to this thread I thought you were talking about fringe LDS organizations, excommunicated former members, and things of that nature; never did I suspect you were talking about a TV show...

Hobo has a ring to it; adventurer makes me think of old British guys with pith helmets sitting on leather chairs with cigars and brandies, braggin' to eachother about their 'exploits in Her Majesties armed services...'

That's what hobo's do, steal pies and ride the rails without a care in the world... Except for the roving gangs, TB, hepatitus ABC, and the fact that pies are getting harder to find nowadays in the era of the single serving foodservice container...

My beard and moustache were getting kind of long so I trimmed off an inch or so today; not I look less like bl8tant and more likea stogy old professor with leather elbow patches on his woolen sweater, and less like a hobo.. Hobo, that's just a fun word to say. [Rich Massachusets accent] "Pardon me sir, are you a hobo? Steal any pies off a window sill lately?"[/accent]

It should be on your "Individual Ordance Summary" which can be gotten from your ward clerk. He can log into the mainframe in SLC and get it for you in minutes. Each milestone on the summary, babtism, ordination to the priesthood, etc. will have the name of the person performing the ordinance. With a little luck and the Family History Centers, you may be able to find that person or a relative who's still living. Wouldn't that be incredible!?!

I don't know that there's anything I can say to make things easier for you. Divorce is a terrible, terrible thing; and it seems to be at epidimic levels within the church recently. I think its doubly difficult on LDS men to be accepted by their ward if their wife has left them; there's always that suspicion that you must have been a monster, or abusive.. Sisters who are getting divorced, especially those with kids, are typically treated really well, while the man is often ostracised. Often we as men have to leave the family home and move into a new ward boundaries, only to be asked "is there a Mrs. T?" Then you feel obligated to tell then that you're going through a divorce and just moved into their boundaries.. The suspicious looks hurt so deeply. And then there's the Bishop who calls your former Bishop, who's had your soon to be ex-wife in his office complaining about what a miserable person you are; so then you find yourself not exactly being told you're unwelcome; you're just treated as.. I want to say 'disposeable,' but I don't think that quite gets the meaning across I wish to convey. You're treated like you're not as valuable as the married families or the single sisters who have custodial custody of children. So what do you do when you go to Elders Quorum? You sit in the second to the last row while everyone else politely ignores you. You get a home teaching assignment with a companion who's either inactive or who is so busy with his life he hasn't done his HT assignments in a year, and families to visit who are inactive and who don't wish to have HT's come by. So essentially you've been given a calling as a home teacher, but there's nothing for you to do... Until one day the Bishop asks you to accept a calling as a primary teacher or something similiar; which you take gratefully because you still feel unwelcome, and it truly sucks sitting alone in Sunday School while everyone else in the room is sitting with their spouse holding hands. Then there's the total lack of activities for single adults that are over 30 in most areas; the Elder's Quorum socials are always at someone's house who's wife is a "Molly Mormon," or its been planned for the married members with little thought for the single members. To put it bluntly, it sucks. And there is nothing I can say or do to make it suck less. I'm going to be fasting this weekend for several people (myself included); if you'd like me to fast and pray for you as well, PM me your name. Best regards! -Ryan

Trazadone is ok, but I prefer Refron (Mirtazipine)