Spencer

its not like theyre forcing them to accept it, they have that choice. And i think that is the right of the family members to do so if they choose. Spencer

Im not sure what serapha is saying we believe, but as she stated she is NOT LDS. We believe in the Godhead The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost 3 different entities but one in purpose. Spencer

Not sure how you get that. This scripture must be just to simply laid out to be taken word for word I guess? Acts 7 55,56 55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. I also grew up to believe in the Trinity, but I am opposite, ive always had a problem believing that 3 could be 1. Spencer

Poor Resty, bless her heart is a faithful LDS woman who has a learning disability. For her to cut and paste is remarkable all things considered. So please be nicer to her. What relatoinship does she have to WhiteMountain? Beats me. She is a sweet spirit though. Just very curious since they both come from the exact same ip. thought you may know since you seemed to know her. Spencer

Rodney, Please do not mock us. Sorry if you feel I'm mocking you. Not my intention at all. Just trying to use words and phrases with which readers of this site might more readily identify. Am I not as capable as the next person to have and express feelings and conclusions no matter how illogical or fatuous they may seem? Well id appreciate it if in the future you tried to put it in your own words then, cause it comes off very different than your intentions. I dont buy your explanation for one moment. So ill ask again, please do not mock us. Spencer

Rodney, Please do not mock us.

Poor Resty, bless her heart is a faithful LDS woman who has a learning disability. For her to cut and paste is remarkable all things considered. So please be nicer to her. What relatoinship does she have to WhiteMountain?

Chris·tian P Pronunciation Key (krschn) adj. 1.Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus. 2.Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings. 3.Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike. 4.Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents. 5.Showing a loving concern for others; humane. Id say we fit in quite well. Spencer

You have not broken a rule yet, but if your intentions are to do so until you are banned, i see it as preventative maintenance. Spencer

Serapha, You wouldnt be addressing Snow instead of the issue would you? cause we both tho that would be wrong. Well if it is truly your intention to cause enough rukus to be banned, please lets save everyone the trouble and skip right to that. As your intentions still have not been made clear. Im not kidding. Spencer

Mmmm clam sauce.

Also, if you have not read the book of mormon, how do you feel qualified to make such a statement? Id be very curious to know. Spencer

If baffles me how you can make statements like these, And then ask a question like this, At one point you seem to sound like you know everything about our doctrine, but then wait, you have a question. Maybe you should re-state your statements. Spencer

Well then it is my challenge to you, to read the Book of Mormon, and pray to Heavenly Father with a sincere heart, reguarding the truth of the Book of Mormon. Free yourself from the box, the reson you have been placed there is because the way you chose to go about things, if you are truly interested in learning, then this is a necessity in my opinion. And only then will I fully believe your intentions on this site. Take it for what its worth, I appologize for hijacking your thread. Spencer

You say this here, but in another thread you ask us to convert us? Please what is your intention, to prove/dis-prove the Book of Mormon, or investigate the church? It is my opinion that it is unfair to try and prove something false without reading its contents first. It is my belief that if you were to read the Book of Mormon, then pray for the answers you seek on the subject of its validity, your heart and heavely father would answer all your questions. Not that it is not good what youre doing, if that interests you, great. But I question your intentions. I think this scripture sums up my point pretty well 2 Corinthians 5:7 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) Gen. 15: 14 shall they come out with great substance. 1 Chr. 28: 1 stewards over all the substance. Prov. 3: 9 Honour the Lord with thy substance. Prov. 10: 3 Lord . . . casteth away the substance of the wicked. Prov. 12: 27 substance of a diligent man is precious. Jer. 15: 13 Thy substance and thy treasures will I give. Micah 4: 13 consecrate . . . their substance unto the Lord. Luke 15: 13 son . . . wasted his substance with riotous living. Heb. 10: 34 ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance. Heb. 11: 1 faith is the substance of things hoped for. Jacob 2: 17 be . . . free with your substance. Mosiah 4: 16 administer of your substance unto him that standeth in need. Mosiah 4: 26 (Mosiah 18: 28; Alma 34: 28; D&C 42: 31; D&C 105: 3) impart of your substance to the poor. I see more than 5? it is my opinion by reading the above that the word "substance" was often used as a synonym for Faith. I most deffinately agree, but furthermore it does not stop there. It is an everyday struggle to become more like our Father in Heaven. Repentance is a beautiful thing. A word I see repeated over 54 times in the Bible. For our further discussions, this question does not need to be asked, for that is how discussions work =) Spencer

Ok, well then forgive me for saying, but you seem to be searching for physical proof, and not attempting to gain a personal testimony. I dont mean to offend you, but I know for myself, without my faith and testimony as gained through reading the scriptures, i would be lost. Here is a question. How do you prove faith? Spencer

Question, whay are you reading all these books before reading The Book Of Mormon? Seems like that would be the place for someone to start for someone who was truly investigating. You'll have to excuse me for addressing you instead of the issue. Spencer

Got to hand it to serapha for sticking around as long as she has, tho if she continues to ignore "people addressing her issues" i doubt many will continue to acknowledge her. Spencer

Do as you please, that however does not mean he has to ignore you.Spencer

Bite me. haha

Ok understandable. I appologize. Spencer

Snow, Ill move it back shortly. Spencer

Why did you quote me then respond to a private message i sent you in a public forum? Makes no sense. And like i said in the PM i sent you, i simply want to read it first, i will move it back, i dont know what it is or isnt just yet, as it is quite long. Seems like a seemingly easy concept to understand. Spencer

Care to re-state all?Spencer

Sometimes people cannot convey there feelings correctly in text. Which leaves a lot for the reader to determine. Give the poster the benefit of the doubt, and make your arguments with the courtesy and respect you would like to be given. Misunderstandings and miscommunication happen so easily on discussion boards so lets just take that into consideration when replying to someone you thought may have offended you. I appreciate it =) Spencer