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One of the members suggested I use something in my oil to cure the clacking in my 2001 Corolla with 145,000 miles on it. I forgot what he said, and can no longer find the thread. Would you please tell me again?

It can all be over so suddenly. I'm sorry

In looking at the first post in this thread, I must say that I think the original premiss is I think rather shallow. In light of the information that I have seen over the years, addiction to pornography is much more wide spread in our culture, to include the LDS culture than anyone has so far admitted. And, shockingly women also struggle with it, though I do not know if it is to the extent that men do. For this thread to mean anything at all; something different than the usual smug back patting session that these sorts of things engender. I am wondering when someone will step up and own up to having or having had a problem? I had a problem with it and it ended a 40 year marriage. I took steps to prevent it ever happening again, though will carry the pain and guilt to my grave. It is by the power of the Atonement that I stay alive today. Come on folks, I know that I am not alone.

I fear that couples with lots of children and responsibilities do not have the time to root out the real causation. And neither person in the marriage can be expected to always be the one to root out the problem. The woman assumes she is not desireable; cared for. The Husband does what ever he does and no one solves it. Neither seem able to realise that "It is not always about them".

I can say with some authority that had I and any of my siblings have done such a thing, I would not be here today.

dogemily mentions mom, but not Dad. Is Dad not there? Maybe Mom has too much on her shoulders? Perhaps Dad would have pinned you both down and covered you with Catsup and let it dry?

You sound relatively knowledgeable about the problem. I wonder what it would be like if we looked at somethings that I think Husbands and Wives MUST learn to understand about each other, not in the way that our culture dictates but in a new, face on way. What if they both knew the basics of the other's needs, having been taught in new married couple's classes, by a no nonsense old granny that is not afraid of just saying it. What would it be like if the husband knew that his wife needed affection, affirmations, and touching and how often? What would it be like if the wife knew that the husband thinks of sex about every 6 minutes, every waking hour. What if she knew that if he had not been bugging her in a few days, well maybe this time she'd need to get something going? What if she knew that men are culturalized to not disclose their fears and struggles, but to just "Man UP"! I just can not imagine what it would be like to have six or seven toddlers running around, needing love and nurturing. OTOH, perhaps the husband is working in a place where some of the women routinely just wear their shirts to work, or otherwise behave in a seductive manner. I am reminded of the talks I had with the Missionaries where they mentioned a passage, "And the Constitution shall hang by a thread ...". Well, perhaps the LDS church is the solution to just lots of our problems. Perhaps a frank, loving and forgiving approach to societies problems is long overdue. They rescued me, and if I can be saved ...

Nope, I think we have ya on that one. It is the way we network and communicate. To not gossip is against our natures.

Though I can not remember his name, upon getting an Oscar or something, this man stood at the Mike and said that he was really greatful and that his award took a lot of effort by him and those around him in support. He then said that "Hollywood wants to make us prostitutes and it takes a lot of effort to resist the seduction. I do not remember if it was Redford, or Glen Ford, or who it was. The girls I mentioned, I remember from a very early age, when they were first in the Mickey Mouse club. Poor Annette Funichello was one of the few that seemed to stay pretty straight. I don't know if you can blame the parents or the producers or who, really. I just think it is all sad. That's it, I'm sticking by what I said.

Yes, and the LDS have the opportunity to approach this sin from a healing direction and not a punitive one. If you look at the deepest of human needs and how they get met or do not get met, I think there is ample opportunity to break new ground. In every christian church I was involved in, revelation of such a sin lead to shunning, explulsion and punishment with prejudice. AND, I think that the people who trumpet the loudest about certain issues are very likely to be fighting them, themselves. The hysteria of denial is really powerful. While I am neither psychologist, nor criminal investigator, I think that masturbation is a result of un met needs so deep that few know of them. Neglect, the feeling of being unloved and a whole constelation of issues contribute. I am not a fan of disfellowship and punishment.

If you look at Hollywood and some of the things that Disney has produced over the years... They have contributed to the ruination of people's lives. Look at Britney Spears, Linsey Lohan, and that western singer's daughter. All these young people have trouble because of the leadership of Disney. Then look at "Lion King". Some sophomoric kid slipped the word "SEX" into the film. I won't bother seeing "Brave", I don't think.

Well, if you do not learn some modicum of social graces by sitting in your crib looking through the bars, there are always the steel ones where ones who do not learn to act correctly when the police are no longer amused by your behavior. If I had done something like that, I would have been beaten within an inch of my life.

No, wait, what movie is this?

I'm even going to brave the heels tomorrow, pretty good for an old, I think. I love the dress; unpretentious and conservative, that's me. One of the Sister Missionaries called me tonight and I related that it had taken a long time to get out of the Muslim mind set, and much to my surprise she said, "I feel your pain". Wow.

Wow, only in the LDS church could we have a discussion like this! I am shocked! But in a good way. Next week I will see part of a documentary being made by a young LDS woman. I hope in time that the LDS church will be the first to drag this conversation out in the open, and some frank, loving and healing discussions can happen. I know a powerful, loving and spiritual couple who are grappling with this right now, and through tears so abundant that none of us could see or talk well, we vowed to help each other deal with all this. I do not think that any man or women gets involved in this stuff by evil intention, and Lord knows that there is sufficient provocation thrust in our faces every single day. One of the things I noticed when I returned from my trip to Kenya and Israel, is that when I walked into the terminal in the US from the plane is that I felt inundated by things that set me back. It is my hope that in the future, no marriage will end because of a struggle with it; that in stead couples will have the tools to prevent, deal with and end it.

OK, I must warn you that this is all supposed to be in fun; no insults intended. So, I got my "official Mormon Women's uniform in the mail yesterday. It's the Emma in Grey, and it actually fit me! So, it is not substantial enough for gardening, but it is very pretty. I was worried that since I am doughnut waisted, it might look a bit off, but in the last two weeks with all my riding and dieting, the doughnut went away! This dress will like your garments under it, other wise it will look insubstantial and might like show through. So I will just wear a T top and petticoat under it. Now I just have to go find the shoes somewhere. Here is their claimer. "Our modest dresses are designed to meet LDS (Mormon) modesty standards by covering the shoulders with sleeves, covering the back and chest, and covering the legs at least to the knee. Thanks for visiting"!

Just had something happen. Maybe I won't go near a Mormon church again, except for the one I attend. What was I thinking?

Gosh, I was just studying this. John 20:17, Matt 25:40, Matt 12:49, Matt 12:50. According to those scriptures, Jesus Christ refers to us as his brothers and sisters. For me, it is very easy to see Heavenly Father as the ONE God, the most high. I've been struggling in my prayer too, and finally decided that what ever I did, Heavenly Father would know what I meant. I trust Heavenly Father.

Oh, sorry. No, I actually did not. We just went. And when I went to Indianapollis to care for a friend who had cancer, I called to find out where the Ward was, but that was all. If I am traveling, I always try to attend church on Sunday. I suppose the anxiety was getting to me.

Did what, travel alone? No, I did not. I did take day trips and that is how I came to the Kirtland Visitor's center. It would be nice to have someone to travel with ...

One by one, Heavenly Father has taken things out of my life and when they are gone, I do not even miss them often. "Line upon Line, precept upon precept. I've grappled with thoughts of suicide a lot, but never did because I knew it would hurt those around me. As a Mormon, those thoughts are greatly diminished.

So, no need to call the Bishop and ask permission or anything? I am a little uneasy simply because I will travel alone. I did it when I went to Provo in March, so ... Thank you. :)

Oh my goodness! Well If I parked my car close to the building, and didn't walk around much, and was careful on stairs ... Ok well, I did look at their web page and I think they do not sell shoes. Perhaps they are the dyable shoes but I can not imagine where one would get the matching dye. So many questions, so many posibilities. :)

Ditz alert! I had not even thought of the shoes! I can still wear low heels. I wonder?

Well, it does appear that the dresses are for the um, little people. :) I am not sure if I can wear it either, but I liked it so much ... they do have 30 day return. Maybe this will be added incentive to lose 30 lbs?