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This is a topic I think we will never agree on, I think. I, personally, don't think it matters.....

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Why not? I see him every day. There is never anything new to say.

Why should the D&C be updated? Because (as I have been told again and again) everything is only a prophet's opinion unless it is cannonized. If it says in a Standard work, You shouldn't eat meat in the summer but this in no longer the will of God, the Standard work should be updated. Josh B) You aren't even a member and you are telling US what WE should be doing. lol.Obviously you aren't going to be taken very seriously.

First cottage cheese, now olives!? Josh B)

Ya....?? Like... camping with youth? lol. Ya.

I doubt it...those statues are 13 feet tall and even if you hit them with a 30 0'6 you'd just put a little hole in him you couldn't see from the ground anyway.... I did however hear of a time when the Temple here in Portland Oregon was hit by vandals.....there were 2 of them, they snuck over the fence in the middle of the night to spray paint the beautiful marble walls...but as I heard it they went to apply the paint and a strong wind came up and simply blew it back in their faces...they couldn't touch the building....so they tried throwing large rocks at the walls to crack the marble but they just bounced off and back at them....then they got really mad and pulled out their high powered rifles and started shooting point blank at Moroni but all they could do was miss....Temple security got it all on tape...you could hear them shooting and swearing "damn I missed" over and over again....then unexpectedly huge clouds formed over the Temple and then a large bolt of lightning came down and struck but only managed to hit one of the vandals...thats when it was heard....coming from above in a booming voice "Damn I missed"! LOL! Thank you Brother Dorsey!!!!

Umm..... that freaks me out.... I thought the gospel was about life... not death.

I'm not saying to you should, when I posted that, no one had mentioned that it has been "updated" However, this "update" (in my opinion) should be added to the D&C Josh B) Why? The meat thing, or the other thing? The other thing is already in the OT... the mean thing is hardly important! Why should we waste our time?

I want olives now....

That's an interesting way to put it. I agree "good works" is a natural result of something and that "works" is just as important as faith but not being done for its own sake. Christians believe works is a natural result of real genuine faith, which is dead without the confirmation of works. However, obeying Christ and doing works isn't what saves or justifies you and me --- it's God alone who saves/justifies us and makes us righteous through our own volitional confession of Christ as our Lord BUT we obey Christ and do works because we are saved, because we have genuine faith and because He is our Lord, not the other way around, so that our hearts, which Jeremiah puts it, is desperately wicked and deceitful and cannot be trusted, will not guide our actions, or works, to get the Lord's approval. Are you confusing the difference between justification and sanctification? please correct me if I'm wrong. Justification is our legal declaration by God upon on us, sinners, that we are declared righteous in His sight. Could this be where faith plays into our justification? Sanctification is the process we go through and our lives where the Holy Spirit makes us more like Jesus. Could this be where good works play into? The question, then, is how are you justified? how are you made righteous in God's site? I lovingly request that you read Romans chapters 3-5 and Galatians 3-5. It is these chapters that speak of this issue. I hope that if you read them you will see that the third article on your Church is in contradiction to God's word. What ever I am I am by the Grace of God, not by my own merit. But by my merit I can be sure that God alone justifies me, I belong to Him, that I can be sanctified into Him and that my merit will be judged for any rewards in heaven (if there are any). Am I making any sense here? You are going to believe what you believe and there's no way I can convert or convince you through logic, intellectual traps, or proof texts otherwise but I'm here to shed some light on why Christ alone is the only one who can justify our salvation, not by works. Again, I'm not saying works is useless it's as importnat in the equation as faith. If we must pursue salvation by works (aside from faith), then would that mean Jesus's gruesome death on the cross isn't enough to save/justify us? That when He said "It is done", he meant half of His work was done and that we are to pick up His slack? That what our loving Lord has done on the cross for us is insufficient and that we are to complete His work through our works? Are we finishing God's work (to justify/save ourselves) of what Jesus started on the cross but couldn't complete? Wow. Did Jesus Christ suffer and die on the cross so that we may continue His work in saving oursevles or did He suffer and die on the cross so that we may santcify ourselves by His example? That being said, you see, one of the basic differences between Christianity and Mormonism aside from the dealings with God and His nature, is how we are forgiven of our sins. Yes, we are to keep his Commandments, but we are not saved by keeping those Commandments. This is clearly taught in the book of Romans chapters 4 and 5. In fact, the third article of your Church contradicts the book of Romans and Ephesians and Galatians which all teach justification by faith alone. It's useless talking to you because you believe what you believe. You wont' be converted. You can't be. But I'm here to shed some light on why Christ would be the only one who can justify our salvation, not by works. Again, I'm not saying works is useless it's as importnat in the equation as faith. AHH! NOT ASIDE! I feel like you are twisting my words! I am talking to a wall. I am not posting in this thread anymore.

I don't. I don't even eat dinner with him. That seems pointless.

Easier to remember a smaller part than a larger one.

Oh, cool B) Is it in the D&C? Josh B) They don't change the D&C that often because than the church would have to make new ones, and everyone would need to get new ones. My friend is already inconvienianced enough because she doesn't have the last two sections, and her intro is different.

It says that they will all know the Lord.. They don't all know the Lord... And we have to preach... That law isn't even in place yet! Am I wrong in thinking that this sounds like the millenium?(sp?) I could be wrong.. that is just the impression I got... that is all..

Umm... I don't get your wording... We are saved after all we can do... yes... Ya... like service. *nods* Yupp. Yupp again!

Why hasn't the Old Testament been updated by the Christian religions? We don't claim to have living prophets................ :) Josh B) "we" was the wrong word. lol. Because... "we" (as LDS) do.

The only way cottage cheese would taste good is if you deep-fry it, and dip it in chocolate! Josh B) That just sounds weird....

How about an angel appering to you? and what about all the other evil in the world? How can evil be good? It's an oxymoron. Josh B) An angel? I was really sick often before I joined the church because... I wouldn't make very good decisions... so "seeing things" would not have helped the situation.Also, when bad things happen, we get stronger. With no sorrow, there is no joy.

I love it myself! (my mon is a big fan of cottage cheese ) Josh B) I LOVE cottage cheese... but that is ALSO SUPER bad for me.. I eat it anyway. You LIKE cottage cheese?!! Josh B) Why not? Mix it with apple sauce and it is awesome! (although it is good NOT mixed with apple sauce)

Ya... I think that too. That is my "local" temple... and that IS high.

I love it myself! (my mon is a big fan of cottage cheese ) Josh B) I LOVE cottage cheese... but that is ALSO SUPER bad for me..I eat it anyway.

I disagree with this because the bad things that happened in my life helped me realize how much I need the gospel. I'm not saying good can't come out of bad things...but can't you think of a better way you might "realize how much you need the gospel?" Josh B) Cinsidering the way I was.... no. I definitly needed something dramatic to happen. Anything less would have been forgotten.

Do you eat meat in the summer? I eat meat, which in itself is really bad for me... Because I get VERY sick... but I love the stuff.. In the summer? Is it on pizza?