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You will do fine, in fact you may even find that 5 minutes are not enough. hang in there =) divine inspiration might reach you, if you wanna read about that, it is the latest post in shared talks on the forum. maybe you find somethign there you want to borrow =)

well then, lets make you happy then. you don´t provide your source, you are as vague as it can get. second, I don´t know where you think to take your authority to judge me, mr. moderator. I certainly hope it doesn´t stem from that, because it will make me snort out my milk. As for your righteous desire to fight evil, I recommend the purchase of a ghost trap, you may want to call your local ghostbuster branch, I think if you buy two, a proton pack may be included for the price of one and if it is a good day, you may get some holy water on top with the option on sharpened stakes, dipped in concentrated garlic. It may or may not help to have me banished into the nether realm of online villains. I have explicitly stated my opinions and provided a glimpse into my experience. The only person raising a fuss, is you. And last time I checked they did not create the calling of Online Guardian of the faith against dissenters and evildoers... you do realize I am not even taking you series at all since you mentioned your league of strong spirit supporters = you crack me up) seriously though, how arrogant of you to claim that you are "fighting" me on the behalf of every 15 million church members, never mind that it is a triviality that you produce yourself in the manner you do to "stick" it to me. You are right, I am not the offended party. I am actually the amused party now. Ah man, may day was rough but that cheered me right up, for that I really have to thank you. Listen, if you have so much belly ache about my statements , here is the phone number and email of my bishop. Bishop Chardon +31 45 751 78 37 [email protected] he will probably lend you a sympathetic ear if you are so eager to defend the faith from someone like me. It should make you happy to complain about my evil conduct while having a great conversation with this awesome person. Heck if you are really lucky, I get paddled in the bishops room with a large cricket club and we might post you the welts. That should make you happy in your desire for retribution =) for all my irresponsibility. Maybe if you throw in the word heretic, they may prepare a steak for me... oh wait I meant stake. And burn me painfully alive so that your thirst for online justice gets quenched. What I am going to do now, is make me a tasty farmersbread toast baked over with ham, tomato and gouda cheese ( ideal chease to bake things over, due to the nature of its medium melting point in the microwave) and then I will count some sheep and will do my best to engage into my sleep into guilt ridden nightmares to appease your offended sense of righteousness. ( notice how I take that with humor ? I apologize if you took offense but frankly I think you seriously should overthink the way you want to convey things while really NOT talking for and representing the rest of the global membership of the church. However, you might wanna look beyond the edge of your plate and try to give some merit to some peoples experiences it is not like where you are from, elsewhere and you put that in question with your comment and that was actually offending because it belittles my experiences and threatening me with a "spirited" strong supporters ... really ? online? the worst thing is that I get deleted but I am still out there and it didn´t change a thing for you . I appreciate that you want to stand up for others but don´t waste it on a scoundrel like me, there is bigger fish to fry and worthier to stand up against. You should lighten up. it is the internet, seriously. If you were here I ma sure we would enjoy a good cup of tea together and I cook something nice, It just had not your desired effect on me, do try to emphatize with things you don´t like, it makes for a strong soul. ) have good night. (ps, do call my bishop and see what he says, he really might admonish me but he is a delight to talk to)

.hack// sign is perpetual poverty ;-) if you want it all

Well Portland is quite the place as the city is web friendly ( big computer corporations have their seat there as well) and the city is quite innovative and advanced.

Here is the thing, when you live in Germany, you are guaranteed affordable or sometimes free day care. schools are less restrictive. Plus there is big companies in bavaria and munich is quite a hubub in terms of fashion and anything that needs promoting. There is alos a powerhouse industry in Badenwürtemberg. If you desire to work you could start a business and see with whatever you like to do with a free limit on what you can earn before it get taxed. As for meical benefits, you can insure yourself and your spouse for 150 bucks a month under certain conditions but kids till 18 are always under the umbrella of the insurance of their parents and covered. retirement should be done privately but then again here is conservative products that yield. In the US you should look toward Edward Jones. They do a fine job.

If you are a web designer you can actually work anywhere. it´s a bit much of a wide berth to interprete what a good place to raise children is. Does it include strictly a happy upbringing or do you want to factor in education ? if that is the case I would recommend you Germany, down south, somewhere Bavaria or Baden Würtemberg. You have mountains, the population is devout christian and tolerant of other believes and the temple in Bern is 3 or 4 hours drive away or 2 hours by train depending where you are. Plenty enough of little towns and medium sized cities. LDS spread is quite dense in the south. If you pay taxes you are also entitled to child support money and other boni for living in Germany. Education is free and all that needs taken care of is the Grades and the upkeep when entering College. Healthcare is also cheaper and convenient than anywhere else in Europe with a very good coverage of Hospitals. Plus all the old medieval history stuff

Well if it is within the US, I thought always that Washington state and Oregon are quite in abundance of game and woods. But if internationally... well, the Philippines make for nice beaches (crystal blue water and snow white beaches ) , Temples gonna sprout like mushrooms. The food is good and people are quite a faithful bunch ( love eastern though not pg 13, gotta give those people dragging a cross up a hill to reenact the suffering of Christ, kudos.) Property is cheap and if you forgo everything you really don´t need, you live like a king or in your case like a queen with a fantastic low cost of living. 7000 Islands to choose from. I would say, that is a start over to make a personal paradise. It should just be well planned. Other than that White Horse Yukon is quite the magical place, albeit cold but warmer than most northern Canadian places. The local pranch president is a very nice person and so is the ward. You could also go to Norway, makes for a lovely place. There is a good number of good places waiting to be enjoyed if one can leave things behind that aren´t needed.

well here is the thing, I don´t call people by names. Heck I even think it is quite interesting what comes my way, and frankly I take it with a good sense of humor ( which I can highly recommend , after all, why so serious ? ) see the thing about an offensive comment is that it usually is the rebound for a comment made first. And if it offensive to point out that some things go wrong where they shouldn´t and where you one does not only sugar coat but points it out, then I am actually very offensive. See, if you and your strong and spirited challengers want to rally for an assault on the evil "unhappy" cynical person. do whatever makes you happy. =) I just know I can let this stand and easily walk away. can you ? besides, since you are implying that you are righteous and I am not and that apparantly I lack spirit for speaking my mind, I can´t but help to feel exhilaration for all the things you don´t say while mincing words. You honestly really don´t hope that I take personal offense in this, do you ? I mean, I would like to point out that this is the internet and most people would not say things into my face in life or anyone else face for that matter because it is so convenient to fire a message off and condemn people with a different opinion. so... what exactly do you want to achieve, silence me for my expression or threatening me to be a more happy poster of uplifting messages ? I could honestly not tell. you know, it was actually all relaxed until you made your denigrating remark about peoples opinion to this topic... so wonder did I really provoke anything ? I certainly don´t put stock into peoples judgements about myself that wont do it to my face =)

ah ? are you implying something. Please don´t beat around the bush. I am a big boy, I am sure I can take it. Just call the child by its name if you want me to be silent and think of me as a bully; put it out in the open where it is quite comfortable.

oh don´t get me wrong, I am as much as subject to flaws as is my wife. As a matter of fact, it is interesting to see what happens when I answer truthfully about topics that most would do well to answer in a pleasing way, as it so happens. I am more surprised to still have my temple recommend which I want to add, don´t think is something I consider myself deserving of. ... did I just say that ? well, yes. I am scoundrel and a big jerk. it is just is too much trouble too form a pretense about it. And yes, since I don´t know you, I don´t have an incling what to say about you and frankly it matters little and frankly I for one don´t even take offense. I just simply consider this an exchange where I gain some more insight. Thank you. I can appreciate that. However, I said content. I am rather content than happy. Because happiness is fleeting.

I don´t know you and you don´t me, so I hope your conjecture may be subject to trial and error. I am a very content person with a happy marriage and a good deal of experience that were dearly obtained in a world that seems to be star spangled awesome because apparently the people have no claim to negative experiences that couldn´t possibly happen in the US and especially in Utah, our beacon of faith... You know, people can be happy AND cynical at the same time. So whatever else you may think of me, you are way off =) oh and let me add that your pittance is simply belittling someone who has a different experience than you have. Would you like me to scorn you because ... in a sense I should "angry" that you have an unjaded view ? I think not. Have an opinion of your own. That is somewhat of an achievement that some never manage. And I am glad for it that some say as they like. So... please carry on having interesting ideas about my life

Well, then. I am glad we talked about it. Oh I found my wife in the church but if you were dating in Europe, you would see where we all are coming from, especially being converts. So, not everything is provided what is so easily available in the US ( saying there is no single wards, commitiess and weekly events. if you are lucky you have the same annual evens, where you meet the same people that fell through the cracks ) I welcome a different opinion. A healthy discourse makes quite the mental spice. And where is a negative experience with a free opinion flawed and has to be logical when it is entirely based on emotions ?

last time I recalled the Lord is the only judge whose opinion is worth and matters. After all judgement is his prerogative. You can however like or dislike his interpretation of faith which hopefully aligns with yours.

location, location, location

well, thank the Lord for agency. That is indeed your personal choice and I congratulate on known what you want. you do realize temple worthiness is for most people a piece of paper that allows them to go there after they lied to their respective bishops and stake presidents if they happen to give in to the pressure of expectation ? I would rather go for the one who honestly says he isn´t worthy and not lying about it. but hey, whatever works for you. I can only say, the temple recommend in the ideal case is still no indication for a good character or a match of personalities

you are absolutely right. however, if I had to make the hard choice, I would have chosen a happy marriage outside the church ( with the lotteries chance of conversion, but still a chance) over a miserable quest for love in the church where one would never be good enough. So, you tell me would you really miss out on someone that makes you happy if he / she makes you happy ?

you are absolutely right. however, if I had to make the hard choice, I would have chosen a happy marriage outside the church ( with the lotteries chance of conversion, but still a chance) over a miserable quest for love in the church where one would never be good enough. So, you tell me would you really miss out on someone that makes you happy if he / she makes you happy ?

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You know i love the fact that this topic is an evergreen and that your kind of comment implies that it is wrong to express opinions and experiences and therefore wishing to discourage the chance and ambition that common sense might settle through reflection of what can be done better and where is the root source. But since we are here, what is your "politicaly correct "way discussing this, since experiences and the exchange of thereof is so unsavory?

you are absolutely right. however, if I had to make the hard choice, I would have chosen a happy marriage outside the church ( with the lotteries chance of conversion, but still a chance) over a miserable quest for love in the church where one would never be good enough. So, you tell me would you really miss out on someone that makes you happy if he / she makes you happy ?

you are absolutely right. however, if I had to make the hard choice, I would have chosen a happy marriage outside the church ( with the lotteries chance of conversion, but still a chance) over a miserable quest for love in the church where one would never be good enough. So, you tell me would you really miss out on someone that makes you happy if he / she makes you happy ?

of course they will. but at least those pretenses about being enlightend and chosen people of the Lord are out of way along with those hidden play rules. Outside the church you expect much worse from people there enabling a mutual ground that asks to be wary. I for one, simply would have resolved to date outside the church if it weren´t for my wife because I would have been what I am not what I am not, such not being biships daddy boy or the idiot convert that repented to late with 27 and could and never will be an rm. doesn´t matter outside the church and in that case, the perils of encountering jerks are more obvious and easier and the rules are more visible and people look results instead of playing hard to get. ( most )

I am glad that you are outraged =) it makes for interesting conversation. I apologize, I meant to say and imply that in Europe it is the case, especially in Germany and the Netherlands as my wife had to experience it as well. I have no plight because I am out of the game and intend to be because a second dating round in the church would certainly be even less enjoyable than the last time. As for Star Trek, I agree =) My wife never actually absorbed much popculture and she got jaelous when I nerded out with a female friend and she couldn´t. So I decided to initiate the nerdification process. Our house is a Star Trek house ( she doesn´t like stwarwars at all, muahaha). My past run ins did not result in plights but more in anger and disappointment that even being your best is never gonna be good enough. Anyway, the whole skin color thing is just ridiculous. I got a taste of that as well as kid for not being entirely "arian" . So it actually astounds me supposedly enlightend people would give you crap for it, but maybe they simply didn´t want their kids to have curly hair ? who knows but then again, your wife ain´t missing out and I think the way you make it sound, she is worth stealing a thousand Klingon birds of prey =) I for one hope the my future kids will not date within the church to save themselves the grief of encountering shallow people that will objectify them or reduce them to something where they blind themselves to the fact that the awesome person they need in their life is being let go because of short sightedness. But then again, if that would be case they certainly are not good enough for them. I remain that the dating issue is an inhouse produced problem that could be easily alleviated if people simply would stop looking for the egg laying wool milk pig

well mordorbund. I am actually having a very intersting discourse here. I don´t know about you or anyone else but I certainly enjoy the replies in their earnest and serious attitude. It provides me with means to gauge this whole thing and add the disctintiveness to my discussion experiences. As for national stereotypes, I don´t think I should, because you can´t either. This >> all around here is the epitome of american achievements and past time and a product of a very American environment. It is ( and I mean no offense by it ) a very American thing as we certainly don´t have it or in that magnitude at all in Europe, unless you could provide me with a source of people I have apparently missed out on in Europe being fervently involved in the same kind of measure as you are if you are also an apologetic. Well I am glad there was no name calling then as it would certainly sour up the fun I am having here. As for the discourse, I just enjoy taking the position of the opposite side and inserting opinions of mine into it. You know, this is the Internet. For all you could care, I am just a fat,pimply unemployed nerd on a keyboard getting a kick out of it while sitting there in underwear and stuffing my face with snacks =) So instead of being dead serious about it, you could try to lighten up and evaluate another persons perception and perspective as I do with yours or anyone elses for that matter because I see this as an opportunity to learn something about someone else opinions. After all, I still consider this a mutual exchange of ideas.

@ all anyhow, I have taken delight in those intense dialogues with you all and I am very glad for having the means to delve into your perspectives. I can really appreciate the passion behind your arguments and I am also glad we have very different opinions as becoming to homogeneous makes us weak and predictable and it is good that the Lords sees fit to variety.