Nate

Rosewood, I as well teach conversion by the sword to my kids.

Sound good to me. B)

One would say that Joseph Smith was a failure then. (I dont think he was) thoughts?

Jack, im going to give a whack at your questions. Everyone reading this response, this is my understanding and I am not saying this is how it is. I agree 100% with you and I think that as members we need to realise that more. We are so concerned with being sealed with our kids because we think of them as kids. They could be older spiritualy than there mortal parents and will have there own spouse so whats up. Why do you think back in the day we use to be sealed to a member of the 12 instead of our family? If the plan that we are all in is the most perfect way of sifting through spirits to see who can make it to Goddhod one would think that this is a repetitive process through the eons. In our heavenly Fathers previous plan that he was a part of have a "Adam" and a "Satan"? I believe that it did because that was the most perfect way of developing a plan to bring out the full potental of spirits. Was there name Adam I dont know but I feel that the role was the same. This I understand that our Father was Christ on a previous plan. No, cause we are all promised what the Father has if we are obedient. Our Father just happened to be a Christ just how Jesus of Nazereth will be a god with his own plan and will be in the same position that our Father is. What about us? We still have the potential of the same just we happen to not be a Christ on this plan. We will not be denied our full potential if we are worth to recieve it. Our time in the flesh is now. No, he did not have a body and needed to go through the same process that we do. Once we are resurected we are resurected. I would think that once a certain level of Glory has been obtained you would not degress back down. All my own thoughts. Please be easy on me before you start rippin my spiritual head off.

Probably that same spirit that helped you become Christian.

PC, and up to that time when he will reveal himself, how do we prevent ourselfs from being deceived?

I think that kinda relates to my theory. Appreciate the stats.

Here is the secret. Open this link, learn the dance and play the music in the next relief society/ Elders quorm. Ice would be broken and friends galor. It would kinda be like a Nepolean Dynomite moment. My Webpage Click on the Spider Not sure why it says myweb page cause its not mine?

So then selling my 2 yr old wasnt so bad then. Sweet

Hi my name is Nate and Im addicted to smiles. At first I thought, just a little smile here maybe another there, but then my addiction begain. When I knew that I had reached rock bottom is when I sold my 2 yr old for a quick smile fix. I was desperate, I didnt have anyone to turn to. But now I have been sober from smiles for 3 months, thanks for all the support. Dang it! There was another one!

Holy smokes, where is this topic now? Lets get to some questions "First Sin" that have backing and research or lets participate in more constructive threads. Maybe ones that the topic starter has done a little more homework.

Pain tells you that something is wrong. Emotional or physical. I cut my leg and now I have something wrong and the body wants to fix it. I have fibromyalgia there is something physiologically wrong and my body wants to fix it. I was abused as a child that is wrong and my mind knows it. It may not have the correct coping techniques to handle it so then I could develop some issues later cause there is something wrong deep down thats not resolved. This is not very spiritual but more of the mechanics. Pain is suppose to be part of life. It was part of leaving our Father and learning how to deal on our own. Will it break us or will we succeed?

Traveler, do I detect a little Holicstic views their?

Dr T, what is your interprataion? Give us you thoughts on it. I still think it represents Christs church and its preparedness but i'm sure it as well has deeper meaning.

Interesting, never viewed it that way before.

Your explanation thus far is vary specific. I think just relaying what you have posted is more than a "Sunday school" answer. I usually refer to the elements honoring the authority that is exercised. Just like in the Pearl of Great Price in the creation the Gods commanded the dirt and watched as it obeyed. How does dirt obey? It honors the authority that was exercised.

Churchgirl, are you implying that we as a people can change the time either sooner or later of when Christ will come?

Considering Jews feel that they are the chosen people thats a bit strange, any reason why they would practice such a stand-offish view?

Arn't we "Blessed" to have our own opinions. Get it?

Sounds like great advice, some that I will follow myself.

It sounds like both of you have things to work on when speaking to each other. Just remember if you want to resolve a concern BOTH of you are required to participate. What I am saying is you can be trying as hard as you can but if he wont listen or work with you than you have some issues. This goes vise versa. There is a difference between the two of you fighting and the two of you resolving something in a fight.

Just a good principle to not be swept away by every wind of new doctrine that blows our way. D&C 50 gives a good guide on this. We are commanded to take issues before the Lord especially if it is new doctrine. If you hear a teaching say in church and you don't feel comfortable with it, pray about it. If you still don't feel good about it then do what we are instructed to do in Section 50. I personally have never listened to Pres Hinkley and not felt the spirit but if I did not then yes I would take it before the Lord to confirm. This is our direct link for sifting through false doctrine. How Dr T will we know who the antichrist and false prophets are in Revelations with out some sort of spiritual test or guide? This is how we test the spirit of revelation.

If one goes upon logic then this is my take. Christ is our brother (Eldest) and other than being the Christ (no i'm not downplaying his role) he is under the same commandments as us. You could reference the essential role of marriage in other threads but I state that a sealing is required to obtain celestial glory. Jesus was the God of the old Test. and so by being the author of OT Law. He was aware by the end of his mortal life of all the nessesary covenants required to teach his people. Our hheavenlyFather was a man before in another Eon is you will who one would assume took a wife and progressed the same way that is promised to us if we are ffaithful WHY would Jesus ddenyhimself 1. Joys of mmarriage 2. Essential requirement for salvation that he taught and will continue to teach till now. 3. What he saw his father do (married for eternity with a woman) YES I aacknowledgethat you could speculate that marriage could happen either in the Millenium or what not, i'm just saying why not when he was on earth. Its hard to say "if it was the case it would of been written" cause there is nooriginall document to reference, just copies rewritten many times and changed. The church takes no official position if he was nor if hewasn'tt. Maybe tosacrede or as a whole how many testimonys would it shakebecauses of the opposition it would cause? Idon'tt know but it in my mind logically makes sense.

Just listen to the living prophet and if you have any conflict with his teachings ask The Lord to Verify in your heart if its true. Let God justify his teachings through his spirit rather than following a "persuasive" spirit that can come from following a forum that has an "devils advocate".

Just like we know of a heavenly mother? Sorry, I just don't agree with that one.