zil

You'll note the end of what you quoted - "regardless of whether he's resurrected or not". I don't think he does, no.

The word "don't" should be removed from my post - I corrected it later, but apparently not before you quoted it. I think it WAS predictive (meaning predicting what these apostates would go on to) and NOT descriptive (meaning it was not describing what they had already done).

I see no conflict. I think the prophet's condemnation of apostates was predictive, not descriptive. My thought is that each person will be tried, tested, and taught in the way that person needs - from eternity to eternity until they attain the highest glory they are willing to receive. As far as I'm concerned, if some people don't need much of mortality, or need their mortality in the millennium, we should be happy for them, and seek to learn from them, if given the chance.

It would not surprise me one bit if Joseph Smith were already resurrected (no, I don't think the world needs to know about it or see his grave disturbed, nor do I think it absolutely must wait until the Second Coming), nor if he were mingling with the three Gods of the Godhead, and others who have already received their exaltation - such as Abraham and Moses, regardless of whether he's resurrected or not. I respect your right to be surprised if any of that is actually the case.

So what if it brings up "hard" questions. We already get accused of not telling converts everything up front, so why risk being worse in this way? Keep this, If You Could Hie to Kolob, and O My Father.

6 of 6 at this table say keep it.

What does a Greek kitten say? μ

Welcome, @John6572!

@Sunday21 would likely be at the top of that list. (If I had the data, I could prove this. )

I would hope we all are. I just want some data to play around with. Data analysis ranks up there with logic puzzles as a fun way to spend a few hours. (Yes, I know, I'm not getting the data. Sigh.) PS: Please don't like this. I'm trying to lose. I may have to have a 14 day forum fast.

Apparently, "play" does not consist of getting likes, "play" consists in choosing the 5 people you think will get the most likes. (This is what I derived from the instructions.) Thus, it doesn't matter whether you personally get likes, it matters whether you can choose the 5 people who will get the most likes (and then stalk them, liking everything they post).

I could do that too! (If I had the database. )

Here ya go:

What they said about Spock after he proved their theory illogical.

Where he was sorely disappointed because on Sunday, they were even more modestly dressed. Nonetheless, hope endures, and he continued hanging out with the religious folk... (Teasing!)

I can account for that.

I can add this into my algorithm - I'm fairly sure likes are dated, so I can find the earliest like, and exclude all posts dated prior to the earliest like... It'll have to be a bit more convoluted than that, since I can now go back to a 2008 post (for example) and react to it, but have no fear, I'll find a way to make this all meaningful.

Makes it easier to be "long-suffering". Of course, go too far, and the horns come out. (Didn't know they were retractable, did you!?)

Back when you needed a chisel to "like" someone else's post...

Clearly someone needs to get me a copy of the database so I can give us weighted ratios! Such fun I could have! ...And "number of likes" alone isn't good enough - I mean, I've used the "sad" response both for when I'm empathizing with the poster and for when what the poster said made me sad (in a bad way - like they were being mean to another poster). So we're gonna have to separate likes and laughs and sads and confuseds and OKs and thank-yous. Maybe rule out sad and OK (again, I've seen it used in good and bad ways) and give negative points for confused. Then we're going to have to divide people into "you want positive responses from these folks", "you want negative responses from these folks" and "meh". Next, we'll have to take @pam and @rpframe and the mods out of the running - I mean seriously, they can cheat (or punish us if they don't win). This is going to be a very complex algorithm... If you'd like to see my fountain pen / ink / paper wish list now, message me.

The golden ratio is 1.618. I prefer the 16:10 aspect ratio for monitors over 16:9, but I fear soon all they'll make are 16:1 monitors! 2.86 - my inks-to-pens ratio! (I thought it would be higher. Must buy more ink samples. Of course, I included the pens I won't be using any time soon - can't even give them away... Still, more ink never hurt anyone.) Hmm. Yes, you're right, @zil likes to post ratios.

Welcome, @Word Chasing! As long as we're sharing funny stories about interactions between Latter-day Saints and others, I'll repeat this one (my funniest)... When my two brothers and I were teenagers, none of us wanted to get out of bed first to shower and get ready for school. There was sufficient complaining that Dad created a schedule for us, and jokingly titled it "The Law of Moses Shower Schedule". He hung it on the bulletin board in the kitchen. Some time after this, we took a family trip and an unmarried (member) friend of my parents stayed at our house to watch the dog. During her stay, she had a date with a non-member, who came to the house for dinner. While she was fixing dinner, he glanced around the kitchen and came to the bulletin board. When he saw "The Law of Moses Shower Schedule", he asked her, with a slightly disturbed look on is face, just what it was these Mormons did in the shower.

And Grunt's (Mr. Indifferenter-than-thou) don't count - we only showered him with likes so he would join the Church! Could you be more out-of-state! (I had to go look it up. We call that "Bangerter".)

Yaaaaawn! "Please pass Mr. Erlengravy" sounds so much more interesting! It would be particularly amusing if, by some fluke, there were actually someone at the table named either Mr. Erlen or (yes, I know, depressingly impossible) Mr. Erlengravy! Just think of the confusion and red faces!

Everybody outside of Texas could just put their gravy in an Erlenmeyer flask - "Please pass the gravy flask." Hmm. "Flask of gravy"? "Please pass Mr. Gravymeyer." "Please pass the Erlengravy." Next year's Thanksgiving could be more linguistically fun than the past 7 put together!