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what does TFP mean?

Speaking the truth of the many men who show that they have low morals and low respect of womanhood does not mean that I have a low opinion of all men. It is not Christ-like to exaggerate when someone is making a point. I am sorry if you took it out of proportion. That was not my intent. But he was way out of line.

That is not Christ's way of handling things. You really have no idea of how I view marriage. And it is men who want sex and want more then one wife.. It is men who want polygamy. I have heard a bishop say about something else that he does not do guilt. Shaming people is not of God. Take your own advice. Grow up. Accept that women find polygamy hard. Accept that you are a man who probably likes sex too much and probably is not patient enough, not charitable enough, and probably isn't selfless enough to understand and be able to keep one wife happy enough, let alone to be allowed to have two or more, and that if you don't repent of whatever lusts you as a male have, you will not make it either. I really have nothing else to say. I apologize for my rudeness. But as for you being a man, i can hardly think you will , in your male analytical mind, see a need to apologize for your rude behavior.

Sorry, if that came across as harsh, but more than one wife seems more like a want then a need, sorry, just my puny, little , opinion.

Sorry, the other thing just came up on its own, I don't know why.

you don't know the doctrine

And where do you get your source for the answer from? That seems pretty unfair to put that kind of a restriction on a woman. Just for the record, I will reiterate it again here, I do not support gay marriage. But I do believe in being kind to our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. I do believe in traditional marriage between a man and a woman. I do believe in celestial marriage. I do believe in eternal families. I believe a family should live a clean, life. T'hat there should be love, peace in the home, that the Gospel should be taught and everyone should be respected, loved and cared for.

And where do you get your source for the answer from? Just for the record, I will reiterate it again here, I do not support gay marriage. But I do believe in being kind to our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. I do believe in traditional marriage between a man and a woman. I do believe in celestial marriage. I do believe in eternal families. I believe a family should live a clean, life. T'hat there should be love, peace in the home, that the Gospel should be taught and everyone should be respected, loved and cared for.

Just for the record, I will reiterate it again here, I do not support gay marriage. But I do believe in being kind to our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. I do believe in traditional marriage between a man and a woman. I do believe in celestial marriage. I do believe in eternal families. I believe a family should live a clean, life. T'hat there should be love, peace in the home, that the Gospel should be taught and everyone should be respected, loved and cared for.

In another place, and I don't want to try to find it, I wrote about Carol, how I replied I have never seen a reference to her supporting gays in an inappropriate way. I wanted to add that her ex husband, I believe asked for her to care for him, so she cared for him when he was dying of Aids, but that does not mean she supported a gay lifestyle. She showed Christ-like compassion to him even though he chose a path that caused her pain and that she did not believe in.

I apologize for coming across as harsh. It is too bad that there are these kinds of things at all that exist in the hearts of evil people.(for ex. prostititution and adultery)

And in that same "vein"?, anyone quoting this kind of stuff should be careful what they are saying. Unfortunately, that is easier said then done.

That is true, but because he was a prophet, what he says , many may take as the truth. I think a prophet needs to be careful what he states, although I really don't know when he said it or the particulars about it.

I have never heard of Pearson supporting gay marriage. She divorced her husband when he was gay and he died of Aids. She wrote a book about it and from what I heard she does not support being gay. You can love a gay person without believing and supporting their lifestyle. I do not support gay lifestyles. But I do think we should treat our gay brothers and sisters with Christ-like love. I do believe in traditional marriage between a man and a woman.

Sorry, not that I meant to come across as insensitive. One thing I heard of once, from the other perspective, was a widow who was sealed for eternity and a man was looking for a perspective wive to marry for eternity, I think he was on the phone with her, if I'm not mistaken. When he heard she was already sealed to her deceased husband, he bluntly replied, "you are of no use to me" and hung up. I guess what this illustrates is how insensitive this whole thing, no matter who someone is, can become, when people think of it in terms of just the thing itself and not the people involved. And I am just trying to think of how people may feel , and not just now , but later too. Anyways, hopefully that helps. This is something I read that was a preview or something about Carol Lynn Pearson's book.

No, I don't, I just appreciate a man who treats his wife with respect.

Its ok, no worries.

No, but it really is none of your business what i think, and it doesn't matter anyway, Contention is not the issue here. Just leave it alone, ok?

No, its not disrespectful and insensitive. If you took it that way, I'm sorry, that you took it that way, but I said it because I am being respectful and sensitive. She is a woman. It will be hard. There's nothing more to be said. We all came to earth. We all have challenges. We all have joys . We all have our ups and downs. We all have strenghths and weaknesses. We all have room for growth and trials. You don't need to judge me. Facts are facts. It will be hard in some ways. We don't know how, but it will. It will be a new experience. We all chose to come to earth. We will all end up somewhere in the next life and we will all make the best of whatever comes our way, but even with prayer and study, it doesn't guarantee it will be a breeze. God never said it would be easy.

I really appreciate your comment. It is refreshing and uplifting to me to see a man who cares about his wife's feelings and a man who feels that way.

Brigham Young gave this at least as his opinion

I don't mean to imply anything about the love Wendy feels for him. But I wonder how she will feel later, when they have to sort things out. Hopefully all will be well. I am just glad it isn't me. Of course things are different in heaven, and hopefully it will not be , awkward, to say the least.

A woman deserves to feel cherished

I know the Church is God's church, so be it, on the earth today. It is what it is. I do not understand everything. We just have to have faith and move on, but having compassion is important, and that is something that is often lacking.

I am not calling Go'd's prophets sick, selfish and adulterers. There is a difference between stating my feelings and calling someone that. I can have feelings and not call others things. We need to be sensitive. It is not an easy thing and I do not need to pretend that it is. I have a right to my feelings and I have a right to let other woman know that they are not alone. They deserve to know that, when they need to feel loved and understood in a place that caters to unfortunately men too much.