Alex

Pic isn't real therefore why is what you write as name etc real?

Hmm, it's a bit like an eating contest in that you don't get time to enjoy the different delicate flavors, the subtle nuances and depth- it's a quantity challenge when it should be a quality challenge perhaps? Reading like that is a bit like those contiki bus tours around Europe where the victims stop in each capital city for a day and learn nothing of the people or the culture, then they go home and brag that they've 'been to Paris and Vienna' etc. I can't stand dinner parties with braggers like that- I find I must call them out. I mean, women don't praise men for having sex in 2 minutes so why do Mormons brag that they've read the B.O.M. in 2 weeks ?

Yeah, there's one in Wales called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. apparently the residents' legendary bowel movements block the pipes as well.

Well, seeing as you're praying for me, I want a talking Cat in the Hat for Christmas. Its mouth has to move when it plays all the classics- fox in socks, green eggs and ham, horton etc etc.

Save your pity for those who need it this Christmas.

Cheers. I would dance to the tunes played by the sock puppets here but meh, they play out of tune. Would you like another chiasmus?

Hmmmmm, no. Seeing as how you accept whatever vort says without a doubt, I believe continuing this discussion with you is kind of pointless. Activate that mind of yours and I shall engage.

Ahh, so that's settled then. My profile page has a pic of cookie monster holding a knife, therefore I am cookie monster, using your logic.

Firstly, is vort a he, a she, an it or a sock puppet? ?

A chiasmus for you: Wow, two competing perspectives at once. Now you're faced with a choice- a choice to think or a choice not to think. The resources are there and many (not all) are held by the church. Are you going to ignore those resources? Much easier to let others think for you- the choice not to think is common. Woe, to those who willfully make no choice.

“If you don't want a man unhappy politically, don't give him two sides to a question to worry him; give him one. Better yet, give him none. Let him forget there is such a thing as war. If the government is inefficient, top-heavy, and tax-mad, better it be all those than that people worry over it. Peace, Montag. Give the people contests they win by remembering the words to more popular songs or the names of state capitals or how much corn Iowa grew last year. Cram them full of noncombustible data, chock them so damned full of 'facts' they feel stuffed, but absolutely 'brilliant' with information. Then they'll feel they're thinking, they'll get a sense of motion without moving. And they'll be happy, because facts of that sort don't change.” ― Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451 Or even better. From the prophet himself: 'I regret the ignorance of this people—how it floods my heart with sorrow to see so many Elders of Israel who wish everybody to come to their standard and be measured by their measure. Every man must be just so long, to fit their iron bedstead, or be cut off to the right length: if too short, he must be stretched, to fill the requirement. If they see an erring brother or sister, whose course does not comport with their particular ideas of things, they conclude at once that he or she cannot be a Saint, and withdraw their fellowship, concluding that, if they are in the path of truth, others must have precisely their weight and dimensions. The ignorance I see, in this particular, among this great people is lamentable. Let us not narrow ourselves up; for the world, with all its variety of useful information and its rich hoard of hidden treasure, is before us; and eternity, with all its sparkling intelligence, lofty aspirations, and unspeakable glories, is before us, and ready to aid us in the scale of advancement and every useful improvement.' --Brigham Young, March 4, 1860, JD 8:9 Wow, what poignant words from Brigham.

Exactly.

Eh, philosophies of man? God used the symbolism of his numbers all through the old and new testaments. He even flooded the planet using those same numbers or sent the planet into darkness using that symbolism. Even the Book of Mormon has that symbolism in it. 3, 7, 12, 40, 70- when we see those numbers in scripture it is the divine plan in action. Maybe it's just me but those numbers reassure me. They assuage doubt in that they link the past with the present- much like a rainbow.

whatever But on to a different more interesting subject. See how God uses symbolism in the number of years, months and days in the story of King David. Wouldn't it have been wonderful if Brigham had have used one of God's numbers re the negro and the priesthood. As in something like 'a negro male can't be given the priesthood until they have stood worthily in the church for 7 years or perhaps, the negro shall be denied the priesthood for seventy years, or even the negro shall not be given the priesthood until they have been active for 40 years. It just would have been more of a, hmm, a continuation of the established pattern where we see God's hand.

You are entitled to believe whatever you want. carb is too lazy to read- I posted a link to an article a few days ago and he didn't bother reading it, then he questioned it. If zil needs to defend his actions that is her prerogative as a web crusader in her divine quest for the holy grail.