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    I am an older person. I was raised catholic and left that as a youth, age 18. I was the only person in the family to read scripture. Alone. The family were Sunday catholics. I don't bash any soul. I do recall that the day my father died, in a restaurant my sister now of an unnamed other denomination yelled at me that I was not saved, loudly, so the whole place heard it. My mother is catholic and she is elderly. I have never bashed her and hope to see her in heaven.
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    Dictionaries contain many meanings for one word, including allowances for special usages, historical meanings, etc.
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    Two LDS people, on this forum know exactly where I taught. That is enough for me. I have not hidden myself but neither do I need to post my name and address on the public web. Thanks.
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    All through history, terms have come to be. The term christian for example, did not come to be until Christ. The term trinity is a fairly new one, starting in the medieval period and heavily influenced by the Platonic precursor. In various different thinkers, these terms meant different things. In scripture skin and curse means one thing. Yet, people today can take that as a racial slur, when that is not at all the topic in scripture, yet, a newer usage can supplant other usages and come to dominate. That Rome jumped in with their canon view of trinity does not mean Rome got a monopoly on the term trinity. Many broke with Rome in fact. Might doesnt make right.
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    Okay. Well, I didn't invent the idea. It's there in the early church. It was Rome who decided to hide many things and make it seem that to bring them up is nuts.
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    I'm not Catholic.
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    because you keep insisting that i follow the mainstream view of what the term means.
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    Oedipus is correct in that the actual islam as a religion based up on earlier forms, and not even in this world. THe hieroglyphs describe the same 'circling around the kabba stone.' However, I would not know if oedipus even knows that, or if in fact he is simply jumbled up. Don't know him. However, he is incorrect in that it's currently in a very dilute form, and disconnected from the reference I just made, re: hieroglyphs. I don't know who Peterson is. I taught at a quasi Ivy league university, with a great football team on the east coast, subjects being philosophy ancient to modern and Medieval theology.
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    Actually I was utterly surprised that the mainstream christian view is the LDS one, at least enough to defend it so vociferously here. I did not know.
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    I've responded quite a lot, and on topic.
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    It's defined for You. You think every strawberry variety is the same. Human beings are not robot clones of each other. I am not a clone of modern christianity.
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    yes he did, sadly, describe the modern view of it all, but that verdict doesn't make him right or even universal. Because Mainstream christianity since augustine really has no use for the notion of female I described, not in any way shape or form. And so that is the problem with my using the word to describe something hated since Augustine's time. If I put quotes here from Augustine as to his reasoning, it would make anyone ill. And no, I am no feminist. This is not at all about feminism, but about Augustine's deep paganism.
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    I would agree that given my version of trinity and my understanding of the God, I worship someone other than mainstream does as well. But that doesn't mean I am barred from using common christianity and terms. In fact, Augustine was instrumental in what books the mainstream adopted, the meaning of terms etc. Many of his uses and terms are utterly pagan. Examples abound in all his texts, and I can give a long list of them if ever asked, though that is a bit pedantic. A platonist set the canon and helped form the trinity views of many christians today. Not my problem to then feel I have to refrain from using a word, which I generously defined and in so doing opened myself to scoffing from those who view me as not christian or heretic.
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    Okay then. So you didn't know that I indeed defined my term. The reason I did not just define it in the OP was simply the desire to let others say how they define trinity or for them to disagree or comment or whatever. I was waiting to see what responses took the thread where. One or two two posts down, I did define my understandings. If LDS wants to use the term Godhead rather than trinity, it's not my call. I think LDS should refer to God however they think is best and use the terms they choose and want to per their own theology and I am sure that when concepts are not generally known, these get defined to clarify and distinguish LDS from other denominations. I find the example of Christian to be spot on since I am sure many do not agree I am christian, and neither do they agree you are, yet you persist and so do I in referring to ourselves as Christian.
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    Rome, who propagated many mistakes, settled it yes. But you see, just because Rome decided what christianity and it terms mean per Rome's own dictates, does not mean all of Christianity bows to Rome, in the medieval context, or now.
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    I think I know the word trinity, since I taught theology and philosophy at university for many years. I also know that there are many sects, and in each, meanings are different. I did define my understanding, well aware that it does not fit mainstream christianity's view of it, which I do not agree with. Since I did define my use of it, there was no 'hidden' meaning or using of surd words which mean nothing to no one. Everyone here by now Knows how I defined the term, Right? I do know exactly what the term means. In Augustine, in various church fathers, in evangelicalism and in others. And in each it's not totally identical. For example, Irenaeus understood His Spirit to be Feminine So did many hebrews in the time of Christ and before. If you want to say that all mainstream christianity defines it per the way you believe that trinitarianism defines it, in congloerate, I wouldn't agree with that, but neither am I going to beat the topic to death.
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    okay.
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    Many different sects have versions of what they mean by trinity. Not only the evangelics determine that for themselves or anyone. This is really nit picking imo.
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    the gist of that redirect and why it occurred, I don’t get.
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    Im a basic soul. I expressed my christian view and explained it in detail. Others have a different view. The thread then went onto whatever unrelated stuff.
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    Except the meta discussion is not making a valid point and ends up more a moral policing. So the point seems to be to end discussion of the op.
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    no one here is discussing the op. The thread has now become about correcting how I used one term, which i explained exactly how i used.
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    The thread has become directed at me personally. Mods please close the thread. Thanks.
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    i dont think that example works.
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    Well that’s you.