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I think I said something similar to this in a post on this page, that she has a glorified body, and, that she is spirit. Even I forgot what i wrote by this point. Grin.
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I can learn about Lehi, since I am not familiar... or with Josiah. But I do agree it was before Rome. I know this that it was before Rome though I don't know how or why. Sometimes when He brought me to Him, the things He showed me went into me so fast, I felt to be missing all I saw, because was all happening so beyond my finite comprehension and not in a way where I could think about or see each thing one by one... but sometimes, when something happens or is said, I recall a tiny bit that was hidden that went into me so fast.
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True. I would agree, except that He and She, by Love, created Eden and their sons and daughters. She is the mother of all, and not by procreation upon this earth.
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True. What happens is that when some things are not true and have been altered by bad translation, they can affect other understandings.
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What I understand is that God is a being with His nature, which is native to all souls of His (but in a very wee form at the moment).. And yes, of course a soul in that weakened situation could reject Him, and go astray, choosing instead the nature of this world. God is not just a God state...He and She are God by their core nature, which is the birthright of His Souls to receive, soon.
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Why does it have to be an either / or? I haven't experienced as an either/or.
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See, I believe I will be restored to my deity, not that I will become a deity... That the eden body lost will be restored. My believing this has to do with having seen my true body. (And true, I might not understand everything I see, yet, but I felt I understood well enough what I saw with my eyes.)
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I also don't think that in Eden I was free of a body. I had a very gorgeous body, which will be restored soon.
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The holy ghost concept really isn't on my radar, as we agreed to disagree on that point. Maybe Rome did that bait and switch.
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Okay we disagree, though the reasoning for adding a fourth, the Holy ghost, that has not been given. I do know she is His Spirit, and that there, is something He Himself showed me and told me. So I believe Him and my own eyes.
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Also, I don't have creedal implications to have to deal with. I've never signed off on a creed or belief statement, especially the Roman one modern denominations inherited.
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I don't know about sealing. I believe that by THEIR NATURE, they are God, and a family. And that I being from them have their nature. Analogous to a DNA concept, except not material in the way we conceive of 'material'.
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The trinity is three: He, His Spirit and the son. I have stated His spirit is a girl, and won't repeat that. I don't know what role the 4th you listed would play.
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Okay. it just seems a word best not to use in relation to His Spirit (to me personally) since it confuses lower spirits with His Spirit.
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So why for you is it a problem she is part of the trinity? Why wouldn't she be? She is mother of all and His spirit?
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One problem is that it is not translated correctly...
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That makes sense, that a ghost is how society refers to the spirit of someone who had passed away... such as in popular culture, when ghosts appear, these being of humans who died but who for some reason, wander around without a home. I am curious about the history of the term being used for His Spirit as I don't like that much, since it implies a disembodied being, and obviously Miss has an immortal gorgeous body, which I saw (even though she can be a presence to be sensed as spirit, or a pillar of fire, etc.)
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I don't know what you mean by the symbol =/=. It is very interesting the 4 you name for reasons I won't go into here. Because then we would have another thread if I replied as to what I understand about that...Plus it could be very very long-winded... and I'm hesitant, because I thought this thread was sweet and innocent and the response was a bit different than I expected. I had been looking at this thread on my phone the first day or two, and since this was in the christian section, I thought some of the posters were non-lds. The iphone doesn't show the denomination display of the profile as I can see it now on the desktop. So I thought that a few of you here such as Needle, and snake and a few others were non-lds. I got confused, someone called their church church of christ. Didn't realize until later, talking to you, that most everyone here in this christian forum of the boards is LDS.
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Well, I do recognize that satan must have at one time been in that family...or, is still, but running a twisted messed up branch of it. I don't know if evangelicals think what I just said or if catholics do either. When I talked to anyone about this, last time I did, I was told that Adam was in hell and so was eve and they were done with, just as a judas figure who is done with. Of course God's family has other members, us! Because They have a son, who in turn has sons and daughters...so there are generations involved. God is the trinity and the same archetype or the trinity is the family that follows within those generations, where the father is patriarch, and then mother, and then the sons and daughters. The part I marked in red I am not sure about in what you wrote.
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I don't believe things because of my conscience. I believe this (she is God) because He showed me and told me and later study of the old testament concurred. I understand that no one should believe something unless they themselves understand it and have the sources for it. I don't really understand why there is disagreement other than 'there is a disagreement.'
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I'm not a protestant. I do not use the KJV as it is filled with mistakes. Yeah, I have seen it there. I assumed by 'scriptures' Jane referred to scriptures as being LDS scriptures.
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Okay. But she is both deity and His wife ? So why then would there be a spirit who was not her as part of the trinity (who is God and created all life and souls?) And why then is she referred to as mother of all? I know what you believe. Evangelicals and others believe that also. I am trying to understand what makes sense based upon my own experience and understanding. I don't have to agree with things that don't make sense to me.
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what you repeated back is not at all what I said. There are Many religions. There are professors who Only know about one of them or two of them. That doesn't make them stupid. I've come across it. I never ever use it myself, and wondered how you as LDS adopted that or why. I received an answer. It was used in your scriptures by Joseph Smith is what I now understand. I never asked Why he chose that, and don't know if the why was important so I did not ask that. Done.
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I'm asking this because while to you it is obvious, to me it is not, since the word Ghost, all by itself, has negative etymological connotations and I wondered how and why it was originally introduced (the history of that, what century, by whom, and why) as a substitute for the world spirit. Since I do not know, why not ask someone. Being a professor of one subject doesn't make me a professor of every subject. For example, I know little to nothing about LDS. Even though I am a professor. LDS is not something I have studied enough to be knowledgeable of.
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There are lots of specializations. While I have researched many topics, I have not researched how translations came to use the term 'holy Ghost'. Rather than go spend two days on it, I asked, assuming others here do know. In that case, why reinvent the wheel if I can learn the details and sources and where to go find them from someone else.
