Bat's Farewell

[Guest bat]

I've been offended by some members of this board. I can dish it out, but I can't take it. I've been treated sooo unfairly.

Goodbye everybody, never forget me! I'm never going to post here again! Boo-hoo-hoo!(bat storms off the stage crying, curtain closes. The audience is completely silent because he is sleeping.)

[Jenifer]

No B-t....don't go.

[Lindy]

Lindy is appalled and disconcerted thinking that Bat has been offended.

I thought about leaving with him.....but then thought.....WAIT A MINUTE! I don't think I could survive being a Batite.

I guess you guys are stuck with me for the time being

Hey Bat! I thought about it.....truly I did!

[Kevin]

Originally posted by bat@Aug 16 2004, 09:50 PM

I've been offended by some members of this board. I can dish it out, but I can't take it. I've been treated sooo unfairly.

Goodbye everybody, never forget me! I'm never going to post here again! Boo-hoo-hoo!(bat storms off the stage crying, curtain closes. The audience is completely silent because he is sleeping.)

ROFLOL!!!! Yeah, right. He ain't going anywhere.

[Outshined]

Just the right measure of melodramatics! Bravo!

[Ray]

I would also think bat was cute if I thought bat was saying what he said ONLY to be funny, or to TRULY to say goodbye, but for some reason I have the idea that bat had an ulterior motive for starting a post like this.

Btw, I grew up with a cousin who acted a lot like bat and I’m no longer amused by such antics.

[Jenda]

Jenda moved this thread to General Discussions since it contained no significant gospel material in it.

[Amillia]

Originally posted by bat@Aug 16 2004, 10:50 PM

I've been offended by some members of this board. I can dish it out, but I can't take it. I've been treated sooo unfairly.

Goodbye everybody, never forget me! I'm never going to post here again! Boo-hoo-hoo!(bat storms off the stage crying, curtain closes. The audience is completely silent because he is sleeping.)

So long, farewell, la la la la la la la.

[john doe]

I find it ironic that the one who offends the most is also the one who claims to be offended most easily. I know you weren't serious about leaving, Bat, but here's hoping you change your caustic behavior.

[Guest Traci]

Originally posted by john doe@Aug 17 2004, 06:34 PM

I find it ironic that the one who offends the most is also the one who claims to be offended most easily. I know you weren't serious about leaving, Bat, but here's hoping you change your caustic behavior.

Could it happen that we've all become just a tad bit touchy about all this? Are our belief systems so fragile that we fear someone as insignificant as "bat" might have the power to shake our personal levels of faith? If so, I find that ironic and an unfortunate state of affairs.

[Guest lt]

poor poor poor bat boy , ok...see ya tomorrow bat

[Guest bat]

Originally posted by LaurelTree@Aug 17 2004, 07:30 PM

poor poor poor bat boy , ok...see ya tomorrow bat

I said I'm not posting here anymore. I just wanted to come back and write a post to clarify that.

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by Traci+Aug 17 2004, 06:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 17 2004, 06:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--john doe@Aug 17 2004, 06:34 PM

I find it ironic that the one who offends the most is also the one who claims to be offended most easily. I know you weren't serious about leaving, Bat, but here's hoping you change your caustic behavior.

Could it happen that we've all become just a tad bit touchy about all this? Are our belief systems so fragile that we fear someone as insignificant as "bat" might have the power to shake our personal levels of faith? If so, I find that ironic and an unfortunate state of affairs.

Bat is not "insignificant" anymore or less then you are... we are all precious in the eyes of our Father In Heaven.

Like it or not we are all different and part of what keeps us different are our individual histories. If something shakes one persons faith and not another’s it isn't wrong. If our faith isn't tried and tested there is no room for growth and without the potential for growth that is what would be considered an unfortunate state of affairs.

[john doe]

Okay.

#1, I didn't say Bat shakes my faith. Where did that come from? Bat doesn't have the power to shake my faith. Just because he chooses to be a jerk doesn't mean he shakes anybody's faith.

#2 Bat chooses to be offensive, he glories in his offensiveness to others, then his "posse" comes in and defends his actions by claiming we are trying to hold him back because he shakes our faith. Here's a novel idea, why doesn't Bat choose to not be so offensive in his ridicule of the LDS religion?

#3 Bat's only purpose here is to irritate. I normally don't respond to him because I can see his ulterior motives, but it is obvious he gets under the skin of some others here, so I am choosing to speak up on their behalf.

(edited for content thought to be offensive to the offensive)

[Lindy]

Originally posted by john doe@Aug 17 2004, 11:12 PM

#2 Bat chooses to be offensive, he glories in his offensiveness to others, then his "posse" comes in and defends his actions by claiming we are trying to hold him back because he shakes our faith. Here's a novel idea, why doesn't Bat choose to not be so offensive in his ridicule of the LDS religion?

YEEEEEE HAAAWWWWWWW

I'm in a posse now!

And knowing that a posse is a "good guy group" I smile....because you see I always wanted to be recognized for being a "good guy"

For some unknown reason...I now feel honored.

Sorry John Doe....Not much gets under my skin.....even the attempts to slam me.

I've been slammed by some real good "christians" so you see ....

nothing phases me anymore....I'm immune

You see I am a sick, demented person who likes to see the good in people, and I will continue to defend those who I still see good inside. Sorry John....

I don't have to read or reply to anything I find offensive, I just ignore it.... and I don't have to blame Bat for everything...cause there are some replies from the lds folk that I don't accept so I ignore it.

I am comfortable in my faith, so I can laugh at a lot of the humor...LDS, Baptist, Catholic, Jew...if we can't laugh at what others find humerous then we can grow very rigid in how we deal with others.

[StrawberryFields]

Originally posted by lindy9556+Aug 18 2004, 01:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lindy9556 @ Aug 18 2004, 01:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--john doe@Aug 17 2004, 11:12 PM

#2 Bat chooses to be offensive, he glories in his offensiveness to others, then his "posse" comes in and defends his actions by claiming we are trying to hold him back because he shakes our faith. Here's a novel idea, why doesn't Bat choose to not be so offensive in his ridicule of the LDS religion?

YEEEEEE HAAAWWWWWWW

I'm in a posse now!

And knowing that a posse is a "good guy group" I smile....because you see I always wanted to be recognized for being a "good guy"

For some unknown reason...I now feel honored.

LOL

I think that being alive in the 60's has forever made me a "Flower Child" "Peace, Love, and Happiness FOR EVERYONE" When I see people who are struggling in one way or another I feel compassion. I have a strong feeling that not everyone wants this compassion from me but that's okay I 'try' to hold back. I don't recall that we are taught to only love the 'lovable' or those who only give us kudos.

I will expose something about me here... Bat has said some things that have shaken my faith at a very difficult time in my life. Some members who have been on this board for more then a year know what I am talking about. I might be considered a member of that posse mentioned but that is okay by me because I have learned so much from that experience. My issue with the board at that time was to be more explicit… that not everything said was in support of the church. I came looking for support and I was slapped with more doubt and THAT was what I perceived was the problem. More doubt wasn't what I thought I would be getting when I came to the home page before signing in as a member. It doesn’t state that this website is for both supporting and non supporting members.

I like Bat yes I do and I have gotten over anything that I has been done in the past. I feel that I have a better understanding of where he is coming from and I choose not to judge his intentions...To Know Him is To Love Him...sorry Bat but it is how I feel about you. (I don't think he likes it much when I paint him to be a good guy). Like I said before who we are is based on what life has taught us. We have the power to learn and take the road that will lead us in the direction we most want to be. In the end we will be exactly where our choices have lead us…right where we want to be.

[john doe]

C'mon, Lindy, this is the 00's. The term posse today generally refers to a person's devoted groupies who follow them around singing their praises no matter how degenerate they are, similar to how most major athletes today have "posses". I wasn't even including you in the group of Bat's posse, but if my version fits, I guess you can wear it.

Go back and read the past... I don't interact with Bat because it is clear what he is trying to do. But it is obvious that he has gotten to some posters here with his crudeness, and I for one don't condone his actions.

I see nothing wrong with someone challenging your beliefs, for that is how you grow and find out what you really believe in. But Bat's tactics of ridicule are out of line, and I don't believe that people have to put up with his level of offense. I know Bat dislikes everything LDS, but that doesn't give him license to openly belittle others for their belief in the church.

I would like to see Bat grow up and act like an adult instead of some kid who can't respect others in their beliefs. Unfortunately, I don't see it happening anytime soon. From what I have seen, he hasn't matured a bit since he was last banned.

[Guest bat]

Are points awarded for attacking a strawman?

[Lindy]

Awww come on J.Doe.... I'm not as young as you are.....if you said "groupie" I would have understood better..... I have grown up where posse means posse and not "A person's devoted groupies who follow them around singing their praises no matter how degenerate they are". Actually that would have been the last thing I would have thought. Even my children have not heard of posse used like that; maybe it's just a regional phrase.

And I don't mind being included in Bat's "posse" as long as I don't see any fangs or horns coming out of him. You seem to make a pretty good sheriff, you make sense, you think from a logical standpoint, and you have a good handle on your faith. But Bat's a friend. And I don't have really bad people as friends....well I used to...but that's over and done with. (lol)

[Lindy]

....."I would like to see Bat grow up and act like an adult instead of some kid who can't respect others in their beliefs."

.....hmmmmm Bat respects MY beliefs, he doesn't believe my beliefs...but he respects my right to believe what I believe.

John....I don't really mean to try to argue with you, I respect your candor most of the time, but I see things on a different level.

I think that Bat expresses himself how HE see's things, how he feels about them personally. That is HIS testimony, how HE feels, how HE sees things. I will give him that right to be wrong as I see it....just as he gives us the right to be wrong as he sees it.

My older boy became a member of the Catholic church, and we talk religion....

I don't agree with everything he tells me, I get upset sometimes, cause he's stubborn as mule, and refuses to see my side of anything. But I'm not telling him I don't love him anymore because he tells me I am wrong, I'm not going to stop being his mother because he thinks I'm brainwashed out of heaven.

I'm too tired to try to make sense....hope I didn't screw it up to badly.

[Faerie]

the thing is Lindy, would you be so supportive and welcoming of bat's type of antics if it were to come from a new person on the board....would you put up w/ the constant LDS insults and demeaning comments from a newcomer? or is it simply because he's a "friend" so you don't find his actions that bad...

[Kevin]

The thing with Bat is that he knows exactly what he is doing - he knows when he's posting something that will offend. I can just imagine bat sitting back after some of his posts saying "I wonder how long it will take for that post to get deleted." I'd be very surprised if that hasn't happened.

[Lindy]

Originally posted by Faerie@Aug 19 2004, 05:54 AM

the thing is Lindy, would you be so supportive and welcoming of bat's type of antics if it were to come from a new person on the board....would you put up w/ the constant LDS insults and demeaning comments from a newcomer? or is it simply because he's a "friend" so you don't find his actions that bad...

Good question.....kind of how I saw things when I first came onto this board. I was really taken aback by some of the things I read by some posters on the board. Ask Bat..... if I was offended, I would let him know. Same as I would any other poster that ticked me off. Funny thing is, when I got to know the person behind the post....I wasn't offended anymore. (much anyway )

I have stood up for some new posters who have come on board who have not met eye to eye with everyone's liking. I try to understand others perspectives and see behind their reasoning. Sometimes it helps to understand the sour notes or the sarcasm if you can see beyond the words.

There have been some posters (no longer here) who were here mainly as a feeble attempt to reach out to connect with others. I think they needed help that we, as a board family, couldn't provide. Help that could only come from professionals; and the help from the Mighty One above. One in particular I remember....a young cry for help....and I just hope she is still alive in her journey to find someone to love.

Sometimes it hurts to get to know the person....to know the depth and soul of an individual and then see them throw, or flitter, their lives away. Satan laughs...he's got another one to control.... awww but now I'm off track.... sorry....it's just sad to have seen good people go wrong.

I will end by saying yes, I put up with a lot of LDS insults from others...newcomer on the board or at work, or in life, it doesn't matter. I counter with how I feel...and a lot of times it opens the door for my testimony. I talk to people, I listen to people....I've had people tell me things they wouldn't tell another living soul. But that is another story.....or two or three .....

[shanstress70]

Lindy,

I think you have a great outlook! I know I could learn a lot from you (and probably many others here could!).

[Guest lt]

Bat,

I miss our talks, and your posts...Hopefully you won't make the mods mad again, I would miss ya dearly bud.....It's great to have your humor back