Lindy Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 I would like to add to what Peace was saying that ....Satan is 'nothing' he isn't worth the thoughts that we would waste on him......he doesn't exist if he is not part of our lives, than it's hard to think about his existing at all....no body the priviledge of gaining a body of his own was taken away from him, or rather...he gave that privledge up ...he has no flesh, no form or shape of his own no future he has nothing to look forward to, he will be bound. no progress,see *no future* no life I think that speaks for itself! Quote
Blessed Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Blessed is gonn aput her head on the chopping block, but this is one question I will and must answer. TS -- true. How do I know? I have seen him. How do I know Jesus is real? I have seen him too. Quote
Paul Osborne Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Jan 29 2004, 10:12 PM That isn't what Church members at the time understood JS to say. They all acted and spoke as if the time were in THEIR time. Cal,Do you honestly expect a Church member to act and know everything as if they could walk on water? Cut them some slack. Cut me some slack. People believe many things incorrectly and have their opinions but these things are not manifested by the Holy Spirit in scripture or in Conference. The important thing is that we are grounded in the principles and ordinances of the gospel. The time of the coming of Christ has always been a sticky subject and Christ made that perfectly clear on several occasions. So, don’t find fault with saints who error in their thinking that Christ was going to come before... Paul O Quote
Tr2 Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Prove it for you? The proof will come to you only through your own efforts or lack there of...not mine. Thanks for dmonstrating that you have no basis, other than ignorance, for that opinion. Quote
Setheus Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Taoist, Almost all of the time I think you have wonderful ideas and views on matters.... however, if I wanted to defeat you in some way; the first thing I would attempt to do is have you belive that there is NO THREAT. I do not intend you any harm I am not even here. sincerly Satan Quote
Ray Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Cal@Jan 29 2004, 06:15 PM Now all we have to do is prove Jesus was anything more than a wise philosopher and we are home free. Maybe we should start by figuring out who even wrote the Gospels and why we should trust the details of a story written at least 50 years after the fact. This shows why dependence upon scripture and physical evidence can't prove the truth of anything. Even if Satan himself appeared to you, you might think you were just imagining it and go check yourself into a mental hospital. The only way to truly know that something is true is through Faith, with God assuring you that you either do or do not know the truth. Quote
Ray Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Paul Osborne+Jan 29 2004, 08:34 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Paul Osborne @ Jan 29 2004, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Cal@Jan 29 2004, 06:15 PM Now all we have to do is prove Jesus was anything more than a wise philosopher and we are home free. Maybe we should start by figuring out who even wrote the Gospels and why we should trust the details of a story written at least 50 years after the fact. Cal,Our religion is based upon FAITH, the first principle of the gospel. It's that simple. When Jesus returns again there won't be any more faith because we will see him for who he really is. That will be a great day! Sadly, for those who refused to believe on him through faith will be found wanting because his gospel will not be in their hearts. Paul O Faith is simply God's assurance of the truth, or an assurance of truth from someone else that God will confirm. God will always be assured of the truth, so there will always be Faith. Quote
Guest Taoist_Saint Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Setheus@Jan 30 2004, 10:09 AM Taoist, Almost all of the time I think you have wonderful ideas and views on matters....however, if I wanted to defeat you in some way; the first thing I would attempt to do ishave you belive that there is NO THREAT.I do not intend you any harm I am not even here.sincerlySatan Yea, yea...the greatest trick you ever played was convincing the world you did not exist :) I'm not trying to prove that you don't exist, Satan. I just personally do not believe you exist. However, if I am wrong and you do exist, I am confident that I am not being deceived by you. Actually I know it with every fibre of my being. Because I only do good things, and spread love and happiness wherever I go...well, I try to anyway.Anyway, I was just trying to start a healthy new debate. I don't really plan to participate in all the debates I have started (the threads I started yesterday). I just wanted to give everyone else something to do. Quote
Guest Starsky Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Tr2@Jan 30 2004, 07:07 AM Prove it for you? The proof will come to you only through your own efforts or lack there of...not mine. Thanks for dmonstrating that you have no basis, other than ignorance, for that opinion. LOL....I haven't demonstrated ignorance....ingnorance is darkness....Christ is light....Those who deny Him and His existence and deity are the ones in darkness/ignorance. Quote
Ray Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Peace@Jan 29 2004, 10:11 PM Satan is 'nothing'...he doesn't exist ...no body, no future, no progress, no life.That is why he is coming after those who are somebody, have a future, and can progress...with true life.Referring to another post about the existence of God...Satan is the opposite of God for the non-believer....so we know what that makes him....nothing. : ) I think these thoughts. :)Get thee behind me, Satan, because I'm moving on to bigger and better things! :) Quote
Guest Starsky Posted January 30, 2004 Report Posted January 30, 2004 Originally posted by Taoist_Saint+Jan 30 2004, 10:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Taoist_Saint @ Jan 30 2004, 10:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Setheus@Jan 30 2004, 10:09 AM Taoist, Almost all of the time I think you have wonderful ideas and views on matters....however, if I wanted to defeat you in some way; the first thing I would attempt to do ishave you belive that there is NO THREAT.I do not intend you any harm I am not even here.sincerlySatan Yea, yea...the greatest trick you ever played was convincing the world you did not exist :) I'm not trying to prove that you don't exist, Satan. I just personally do not believe you exist. However, if I am wrong and you do exist, I am confident that I am not being deceived by you. Actually I know it with every fibre of my being. Because I only do good things, and spread love and happiness wherever I go...well, I try to anyway.Anyway, I was just trying to start a healthy new debate. I don't really plan to participate in all the debates I have started (the threads I started yesterday). I just wanted to give everyone else something to do. Well Tao...you have succeeded. LOL Quote
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