LDS Church defends itself against new allegations

[Hemidakota]

EXCERPT: A church spokesman says the accusations by Fred Karger, founder of Californians Against Hate, who alleges that the LDS Church played a role in establishing the National Organization for Marriage, are baseless.

"The church is unconcerned about Mr. Karger's newest complaint," said LDS Church spokesman Scott Trotter. "Mr. Karger has again made claims that have no basis in fact, and this newest round of allegations follows the same pattern. As we have said before, he is entitled to his opinion but not to his own version of the facts."

ARTICLE LINK: Deseret News | LDS Church defends itself against new allegations

[bytor2112]

National Organization for Marriage.....sounds like an awfully hateful group???? Edited March 20, 2009 by bytor2112

[Hemidakota]

Not really since I do receive there mailers and review the content.

[Just_A_Guy]

Karger's scraping the bottom of the barrel. As usual.

[Maxel]

I've read and researched this a bit. Apparently Krager has 'incriminating' letters from Church leaders from 1995 that showed a 'duplicitous' involvement in an effort to defeat same-sex marriage there.

I've read his letter to the Fair Political Practices Commission, and it doesn't seem to have much merit at all. His most damming statements are his own constructs and opinions. He attempts to set up a precedent of deceitful dealings by the leaders of the Church, but my opinion is that he fails miserably. The real test, though, will be if the Fair Political Practices Commission turns up anything substantial to support Krager's claims.

[Moksha]

I read the story in the Salt Lake Tribune and followed the link of leaked documents to Mormongate.com. They were all concerning a similar proposition in Hawaii, and so the case would be tenuous at best to show a propensity for this type of thing in California. I am sure that the expiration date has been reached for any of the action in Hawaii, but there still might be a reaction from the islanders.

[Just_A_Guy]

I think it interesting that Karger has so little faith in the CFPPC's ongoing investigation that he feels the need to draw their attention to every new thing he finds on the internet.

It's been four months since Karger's initial complaint was filed. It's been a month and a half since the Church's final campaign disclosures. Government wheels turn slowly, but even so I suspect the investigation is winding down. If there were going to be a hearing (where the Church would have to bring its lawyers), the date would be set already. I suspect that Karger knows--via his informants in Church Headquarters--that there will be no hearing; he knows his first complaint was full of misstatements; and he fears that a decision exonerating the Church will be forthcoming very shortly.

So, if forced to guess, I'd say that this is a ploy by Karger to either draw out the investigation or else be able to accuse the CFPPC of bias by alleging that they couldn't possibly have had time to consider the points raised in his second complaint before issuing their decision.

Edited March 20, 2009 by Just_A_Guy

[talisyn]

Fred Karger and an elephant walk into a bar..

from opposite directions...

Mormon Conspiracy!

[StallionMcBeastly]

Can these people not understand that having a different opinion doesn't equal hate?

Buffoons.