Have You Been Saved?

[Justice]

then the poster said that I was suffering from angst

I took it as Jim saying HE was suffering from angst, not you.

I guess that's the misunderstanding I had that made your words seem a bit harsh.

In any case, I see it now that I went back and re-read. I still think it's being blown out of proportion. I think we're just used to different vocabularies.

Edited May 5, 2009 by Justice

[Snow]

I took it as Jim saying HE was suffering from angst, not you.

I guess that's the misunderstanding I had that made your words seem a bit harsh.

In any case, I see it now that I went back and re-read. I still think it's being blown out of proportion. I think we're just used to different vocabularies.

It's not out of proportion - I am making a silly commentary as a bit of fun and Jim seems totally uninterested in taking or giving offense. If I were speaking (instead of writing) I'd be smiling and chuckling a bit as I said it.

[Justice]

:)

Thank you.

[Jim108]

It's not out of proportion - I am making a silly commentary as a bit of fun and Jim seems totally uninterested in taking or giving offense. If I were speaking (instead of writing) I'd be smiling and chuckling a bit as I said it.

Thats cool

[Traveler]

judgment and mercy?

Is the expression of G-d's judgement different than the expression of G-d's mercy? Are both consistant and always present in G-d's dealing and covenants with men? Are we to think of the final judgement as part of his mercy or apart from his mercy?

The Traveler

[Misshalfway]

This is an awesome thread. I sure have enjoyed reading.

I think what I love about the gospel of Jesus Christ AND the dictate from Him to follow and keep His commandments is that this whole repentance/obedience thing -- it is a process of progression. I may never become a perfect being in this life, but I can get better. I can learn to master different part of my flesh and things that might have caused me to stumble before can absolutely be turned into strengths. I think it is this process of obedient striving and then repenting....and even the temporary failures the devoted experience that literally refines us and then we slowly, step by step, become more like our beloved Savior. And then we are promised that Jesus will make changes in us. There really is no need to remain wretched, even though we feel like that on occasion.

So.....maybe the sexy girl on the TV won't have the power to rev your engine as much as self mastery and obedience starts to work its magic. The Book Of Mormon talks about (Mosiah 5:2) the mighty change that Holy Spirit has on us when we truly repent. "....because of the Spirit of the Lord Omnipotent, which has wrought a mighty change in us, or in our hearts, that we have no more disposition to do evil, but to do good continually."

I really like that "no more disposition" line. It doesn't say "no more desire". It says that the very fabric of who we are changes. That sounds like good news to me. :)

Edited May 6, 2009 by Misshalfway

[JohnnyRudick]

judgment and mercy?

Is the expression of G-d's judgement different than the expression of G-d's mercy? Are both consistant and always present in G-d's dealing and covenants with men? Are we to think of the final judgement as part of his mercy or apart from his mercy?

The Traveler

I know what the "PC" position is but I after a lifetime of discussions like these would have to say it depends on where you are "Standing".