StrawberryFields Posted May 23, 2005 Report Posted May 23, 2005 Yesterday in RS I learned more of the resource material they have now for missionaries, it is called "Preach My Gospel". http://www.byubookstore.com/ePOS/this_cate...l.html&design=1 (This book can also be purchased at the church dist. center for 6.00)If I remember right, it was the October Conference of 2002 when they set a new standard for missionaries. They decided that it was "Time To Raise The Bar". My understanding was that new missionaries were required to have recently read The BOM and have a testimony in it. I also believed that they were to only use the scriptures and their knowledge of them to teach investigators. Apparently this new book was introduced about the time of the October conference in 2003. Does anyone know what happened? Why did they come out with a new manual for the missionaries? Was the bar set too high? Why did they wait for a year after "Raising the bar?" What about the boys who chose not to go on a mission from the year of 2002-2003 because they felt inadequate without any manual?Although this book is very well done, it does not actually have discussions. It is a resource that we can all use as a foundation to begin with, when teaching someone the gospel. Quote
Dale Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 Hi, I am glad you told me where to get one. I have the old discussions but this looks easier to pack around. I am anxious to see how it looks in comparison to my denominations Community of Christ Missionary resource set. Sincerely, Dale Quote
Jason Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 SF, Could it be that the missionaries really aren't inspired enough to go it alone, and the hierarchy quickly realized this fact? Quote
Setheus Posted May 24, 2005 Report Posted May 24, 2005 I think it is a good idea to make sure everyone is teaching the same thing the same way. If you teach one soldier Isralie room entry tactics and another American room entry tactics etc you'll have chaos and the job won't get done and you might hurt or get killed your own guys. Both tactics are superb and when done correctley quite lethal BUT when everyone involved uses the same tactics it just flows. It goes as planned. This is why I think a standard manual is a good thing and the "inspiration" part should be comming from the one being taught in that they are inspired by the Spirit of the Lord to know the truth when it is presented to them. Quote
StrawberryFields Posted May 24, 2005 Author Report Posted May 24, 2005 Imade a mistake the book did not come out in 2003. It came out in October 2004 TWO Years after "Raising the Bar". I think you could be right Jason (Happy to see that you lost "The EX") about the missionaries needing more. This topic has been very difficult for me because just as my oldest son was preparing to get things going for a mission, they came out with "The New Standard" He turned 19 in May 2003 and he felt inadequate to teach others without a manual. I was very angry as I expressed my feelings on this board. He has done fine marrying a wonderful girl in the temple in June of 2004. I really feel that a mission is a wonderful thing and that my son would have benefited from serving a mission. I wonder how many others boys chose not to serve based in the fact of this New Standard. I got to tell you it was all I could do to sit there on Sunday without saying a word. The teacher said something like "It's so nice to see that when they Raised the Bar they did not leave the missionaries without any resources". It would have been much better to phase out the old discussions and replaced them with this new manual. Quote
Dale Posted June 1, 2005 Report Posted June 1, 2005 Hi, LDS should be happy it's quite a good looking volume. I bought one finally. Sincerely, Dale Quote
Guest enlightenme Posted June 10, 2005 Report Posted June 10, 2005 Everyone in our ward got one for free :) Quote
begood2 Posted June 12, 2005 Report Posted June 12, 2005 enlightenme, That would sure be nice! :) Quote
Dale Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 I think I paid seven dollars for my copy. Does the thing mean no more flipcharts? I had the older set & they came with a flipchart. Any new tracts to replace the old ones? Sincerely, Dale Quote
Maureen Posted June 17, 2005 Report Posted June 17, 2005 Originally posted by enlightenme@Jun 9 2005, 09:38 PM Everyone in our ward got one for free :) It's appearing that the "Canadian LDS" way of doing things is quite generous and open-minded. M. Quote
Mahonri Posted June 20, 2005 Report Posted June 20, 2005 We have an extremely generous high councilor who has bought bottomless boxes of Preach My Gospel for the Bishops to hand out in every ward in the stake. Folks are using it for Sunday School, Home Evening, Mission prep, YM/YW... I'm headed to a week of girls camp and I'll be part of a fireside on Friday and the gal in charge asked me to use a section from Preach My Gospel. M Quote
miztrniceguy Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 anyone have "Preach My Gospel" as a pdf or other downloadable file? if so please email to [email protected] Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted July 22, 2007 Report Posted July 22, 2007 I have two copies of Preach my gosple and both were given to me...I was given the second one as I had misplaced the first one...I have since found it...Pm me with an address and I will send you my second copy. BTW, I am an American and everyone in my stake (Syracuse, NY) received a free copy. We also all went to free classes on hoe to best use this resource. Quote
miztrniceguy Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 I have two copies of Preach my gosple and both were given to me...I was given the second one as I had misplaced the first one...I have since found it...Pm me with an address and I will send you my second copy.BTW, I am an American and everyone in my stake (Syracuse, NY) received a free copy. We also all went to free classes on hoe to best use this resource.i'm looking for a downloadable one...for someone who wants it on his palm pilot Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 <div class='quotemain'>I have two copies of Preach my gosple and both were given to me...I was given the second one as I had misplaced the first one...I have since found it...Pm me with an address and I will send you my second copy.BTW, I am an American and everyone in my stake (Syracuse, NY) received a free copy. We also all went to free classes on hoe to best use this resource.i'm looking for a downloadable one...for someone who wants it on his palm pilot Oh, sorry...can't help you there. Quote
Gabelma Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 Yesterday in RS I learned more of the resource material they have now for missionaries, it is called "Preach My Gospel". http://www.byubookstore.com/ePOS/this_cate...ml&design=1 (This book can also be purchased at the church dist. center for 6.00)If I remember right, it was the October Conference of 2002 when they set a new standard for missionaries. They decided that it was "Time To Raise The Bar". My understanding was that new missionaries were required to have recently read The BOM and have a testimony in it. I also believed that they were to only use the scriptures and their knowledge of them to teach investigators. Apparently this new book was introduced about the time of the October conference in 2003. Does anyone know what happened? Why did they come out with a new manual for the missionaries? Was the bar set too high? Why did they wait for a year after "Raising the bar?" What about the boys who chose not to go on a mission from the year of 2002-2003 because they felt inadequate without any manual?Although this book is very well done, it does not actually have discussions. It is a resource that we can all use as a foundation to begin with, when teaching someone the gospel.As I understand it from the missionaries that eat here - in our mission the missionaries are actually encouraged to teach more from the spirit and it is being used in a Member MTC programme where the missionaries are teaching the members how to go about being more effective missionaries.They have also stopped knocking on doors.Charley Quote
sixpacktr Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 The study guide "Preach My Gospel" is for every member of the church. In my last ward all leaders rec'd a copy of the guide and were told to read and learn it. Since missionary work is now part of the Bishop's purview, and not the Stake's, it brings the missionary effort more close to the members. The whole point of "PMG" is to, as has been said, teach by the spirit. No more memorizing things, no more rote recitation, but KNOW the precepts and learn how to teach from the scriptures. I love this! 20 odd years ago I "rebelled" slightly while on my mission to Japan. We had a rote recitation lesson plan, and it wasn't "me". So I studied the words (I needed to learn the vocabulary), and gained a testimony of the lesson, and then taught in my own words. I felt it was better, although the Lord may not have been too pleased with me (I was doing something opposite of what my rank and file leaders were telling me to do, and it wasn't time). So I won't justify my actions, just that I have felt, for a long time, that D&C Section 50 is the correct way to teach the gospel, whether at church or in someone's home or on the street. The spirit will direct the words that that group/person needs to help them in the conversion process, not me or someone else. Elder Ballard made it happen, and every one of the 1st Presidency and Apostles read over it with a fine tooth comb. It is an amazing primer of the gospel, and we should welcome it with open arms... Quote
miztrniceguy Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 i now have a pdf of it. thanksfor trying yediyd Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted July 23, 2007 Report Posted July 23, 2007 i now have a pdf of it. thanksfor trying yediyd I just got and MP3 player...could you send me the link? I would LOVE it on tape!!!!!Here is my E-mail: [email protected] Quote
miztrniceguy Posted July 24, 2007 Report Posted July 24, 2007 <div class='quotemain'> i now have a pdf of it. thanksfor trying yediyd I just got and MP3 player...could you send me the link? I would LOVE it on tape!!!!!Here is my E-mail: [email protected]its not a sound file....Pdf is an adobe file....like pictures of pages from the manual...read with adobe acrobat reader Quote
Gabelma Posted July 24, 2007 Report Posted July 24, 2007 20 odd years ago I "rebelled" slightly while on my mission to Japan. We had a rote recitation lesson plan, and it wasn't "me". So I studied the words (I needed to learn the vocabulary), and gained a testimony of the lesson, and then taught in my own words. I felt it was better, although the Lord may not have been too pleased with me (I was doing something opposite of what my rank and file leaders were telling me to do, and it wasn't time). So I won't justify my actions, just that I have felt, for a long time, that D&C Section 50 is the correct way to teach the gospel, whether at church or in someone's home or on the street. The spirit will direct the words that that group/person needs to help them in the conversion process, not me or someone else.Elder Ballard made it happen, and every one of the 1st Presidency and Apostles read over it with a fine tooth comb. It is an amazing primer of the gospel, and we should welcome it with open arms...I suspect in Japan that may have been the right way to go My experience helping the missionaries teaching with investigators is that the discussions are fantastic for teaching Jews, Most Christians and Muslims but weren't very good at teaching Buddhists, Hindus and Pagans, and also some Roman Catholics - as it seems to assume a basic belief in Christ.Charley Quote
pushka Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 <div class='quotemain'><div class='quotemain'> i now have a pdf of it. thanksfor trying yediyd I just got and MP3 player...could you send me the link? I would LOVE it on tape!!!!!Here is my E-mail: [email protected]its not a sound file....Pdf is an adobe file....like pictures of pages from the manual...read with adobe acrobat readerCould you possibly place a link here for us to download the PDF, please? Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 <div class='quotemain'><div class='quotemain'> i now have a pdf of it. thanksfor trying yediyd I just got and MP3 player...could you send me the link? I would LOVE it on tape!!!!!Here is my E-mail: [email protected]its not a sound file....Pdf is an adobe file....like pictures of pages from the manual...read with adobe acrobat reader I'm not sure what that means, but my mp3 player can download movies, pictures and books...it has a 2x4 inch screen on it.I still have not learned how to make it compatible with my widows vista...what a pain this windows vista is!! I know, CK...I don't want to hear your, "I told you so's" I bought this piece of crap BEFORE I met you, remember!! Quote
CrimsonKairos Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 Yed, I told you s......*cough*....ahem, never mind. B) Quote
Guest Yediyd Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 Yed, I told you s......*cough*....ahem, never mind. B) OK, smarty pants!! Will you please send me a mac so I can enjoy my new mp3 player? Quote
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