Why some won't & shouldn't get into heaven

[Maya]

This has been very interesting to read thank you guys. As for my belief I believe we all do find a place where we feel comfortable. If you are not a mathematician you might feel slightly out of place in a mathematicians conferance ... but then you were free to go some other place Ofcourse to some of us it may be a sad fact to find out that we did not make it, that we dont feel home in celestial. As for other Christians they believe Jesus as their God, that is what they will get. They will be happy, unless they notice that God the Father is an other person than Jesus.

Anyway sometimes I wonder about those who do a "big" sinn like rape or abuse or adultery, where do those go who repend? Is it poossible to repend enough? Could it be that if a person repends and if some person cant forgive him/her they do not feel comfortable in the same place as the wrong doer so they choose an other kingdom, or they are shown to an other kingdom as they cant forgive? In other words is it possible that people that have done these sins can end up in Celestical? Or is it so that if you have done something like that you can forget it!

For God there are no graded sins, only those who have repended from their sins, and those who have not repended from them. Sheding innocent blood is an unforgivable sin. I suppose that means by carefull consideration to shed the blood, not by an accident.

I also wonder about those people, who are psychologically sick in one way or an other, are they responsible of their deeds? Not to tap anyone in their head and say; "Poor you had a bad childhood..." But sometimes it feels that people dont give a chanse to those. It feels that some people are not able to understand because of their braincapasity. Sometimes someone gets out of a childhood trauma and suddenly understands the terrible things they have done... they repend, but wont get an other chanse here on earth by the people here.

[marts1]

There are many scriptures in the BoM that tells me many will not be so happy in their end state. Alma 28:11 for instance is one of them.

[Traveler]

There are many scriptures in the BoM that tells me many will not be so happy in their end state. Alma 28:11 for instance is one of them.

I hope you do not mind a comment - It seems to me that there are some people that insist on being unhappy no matter where they are. When I take people river running, I like to watch people for what I call people types. There is one type of person that shows up from time to time that no matter who the boat captian is and no matter where on the river the boat is they are always wanting to paddle and get everybody else to paddle the boat to somewhere else.

In life these people seem to always want to be somewhere else doing something else - As strange as it may seem they are most happy being unhappy. I think some people will be most happy somewhere they can complain and be miserable.

The Traveler

[marts1]

Not at all and your right it is strange, very strange. I'm not so sure I can accept anyone would truly rather be miserable then happy.

[Traveler]

Not at all and your right it is strange, very strange. I'm not so sure I can accept anyone would truly rather be miserable then happy.

That is because you see thing through your eyes and since you have tried miserable and did not like it you assume no one else would ether. But you know what - there are people in this world that love eating stuff you and I can't stand to even smell - go figure.

The Traveler

[marts1]

That is because you see thing through your eyes and since you have tried miserable and did not like it you assume no one else would ether. But you know what - there are people in this world that love eating stuff you and I can't stand to even smell - go figure.

I'm familiar with this reasoning but I still can't accept it. When I hear someone say they would rather be miserable I think they are fooling themselves.