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Did I say I don't take advice from others?

No offense but I wouldn't want relationship advice from someone who's been married more than once if it's due to a divorce.

You laugh about people cheating on others so obviously you wouldn't be someone to listen to.

Hey LDSC!

Just a friendly observation - When folks ask for advice, in an advice forum, with a post called "What should I do", and then denigrate people when they give it, it's hard for anyone to take such folk seriously.

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I've been dating since my freshman year of high school. I know what a real relationship is. I'm 19 so I'm not a kid. What's with people telling others to stop dating?

"Date for fun, not for a serious relationship."

Dating isn't a game. Since your advice is to not date for a serious relationship then are you suggesting people to get married for fun as well? By dating, you hope to build into a serious relationship. By dating someone you want to see if they're for you in regards to marriage and it's nearly impossible to do that by just "dating for fun". If you date to not get into a serious relationship you're defeating the purpose because it's that serious relationship that will build to marriage.

You've dated since you were a freshman? That's way before you were 16, then? And no, you do NOT know what a real relationship is. This is what all teens claim, but they have no idea what they are saying. They speak out of their experience, which is almost nil when it comes to true relationships. Just look at your actions recently: dating a 16 year old for a couple weeks as a couple, then you ask if you should dump her for another old girlfriend, then you ask if you should ask the bishop's daughter to write you on your mission, then you claim your immature 16 year old girlfriend of "cheating" because she followed the For the Youth pamphlet and didn't steady date? How exactly is that mature or knowing real relating? Your own words betray your inexperience and instability in relations.

I said you should not date one specific person. We date to learn about relationships, yes. However, the FTY pamphlet states teens should not date steady or even go on single dates. Here is what it specifically says:

Dating

Begin to prepare now for a temple marriage. Proper dating is a part of that preparation. In cultures where dating is appropriate, do not date until you are sixteen years old. Not all teenagers need to date or even want to. Many young people do not date during their teen years, because they are not interested, do not have opportunities, or simply want to delay forming serious relationships. Good friendships can be developed at every age.

When you begin dating, go in groups or on double dates. Avoid pairing off exclusively with one partner. Make sure your parents meet and become acquainted with those you date. Later the time will come for choosing just one. You may occasionally want to invite your dates to activities with your family.

Plan positive and constructive activities when you are together. Do things that help you get to know each other. Be careful to go to places where there is a good environment, where you won't be faced with temptation.

Because dating is a preparation for marriage, date only those who have high standards, who respect your standards, and in whose company you can maintain the standards of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

You are, by definition, still a teenager. Until after your mission, you should not be steady dating, but go in groups and double dates most of the time. You claim you follow the prophets, yet it must not apply to the current prophets? You dated before you were 16. You are steady dating, being exclusive with one partner.

If you want us to take you seriously, then you have to be consistent with your statements. You either follow or don't follow the prophets. You either follow or don't follow the FTY pamphlet. You either are smarter gospel-wise than everyone twice your age, or you are not.

If you make claims, then you are expected to back them up. Have you heard of the term: testimony of witnesses? It means that when a claim has several solid witnesses to back it up, then it is probably the solid case it claims to be. This is used in the courts of law. It is also used here. When one person makes a claim, and a dozen people witness for it, we can generally think that such is on solid ground. The opposite is just as true: when someone makes a claim and a dozen people witness against it, then the claim has problems. Many of your claims have not met with much success here, because you are trying to come off as something you are not: a mature and well-read LDS adult.

I know enough to know that I know almost nothing in this universe. But I still know much more than you do in many, many areas. I could easily run circles around most of the people on this list regarding gospel knowledge, and I would gather that most of them know more than you.

You are welcome here, LDSC, but try using a little more humility and less bravado. You are just proving yourself to be a little kid. Try actually reading the things the majority are trying to tell you. You can use it to learn and grow. Or you can keep going as you are, thinking you are standing up alone against the man, while all of us adults are just thinking how silly and foolish you are looking. You are inconsistent, immature, and doing all the other things a teen would normally do. The difference is that some teens have enough presence of mind to learn from their elders, while others think there is nothing they can learn. Guess which group is the foolish group? Don't be in that group.

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