Family_Man Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 I was guessing six months before we had forces on the ground in Libya. Looks like I was 179 days off...StoryEven though it was only a plane that is "suspected of mechanical failure", we have people on the ground. Quote
NeuroTypical Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Lemme guess - is this a story about special forces parachuting in to coordinate things with the rebels? Yeah - we're pretty good at that. Not usually what we consider "boots on the ground" though. That's a different concept. Quote
rameumptom Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Sadly, we've moved away from the Weinberger/Powell doctrine of limited warfare: how does it impact US security/safety? Is there a well defined goal(s)? What is the likelihood of success? What is the entire timeframe/cost? We left that far behind with Clinton in Bosnia/Serbia, and Bush in Iraq/Afghanistan, where we didn't count the full cost to our country, the world, and our military. Now we're expanding out and going to save people in every nation from their own dictators? Shall we also go against Bahrain? Saudi Arabia? Congo? How about Russia? Where do we stop, and if we keep pushing the world around, forcing it into our ideals, when will they begin to really push back? Does this make us imperialists? I think so. We may not be officially taking over the countries, but if we are in them for decades (like Iraq), it is the same as if we owned the place. Welcome to the United States of America, the totalitarian dictator of the globe. Quote
Family_Man Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 Lemme guess - is this a story about special forces parachuting in to coordinate things with the rebels? Yeah - we're pretty good at that.Not usually what we consider "boots on the ground" though. That's a different concept.I am familular with "boots on the ground". I am one of those boots right now. As for SF, well, if we were, it wouldn't be public without something like wikileaks' help.It was a F15 that crashed. Both pilot and Navigator were "rescued" by rebels. Which is odd because last week the rebels were holding a Brittish SF guy hostage.Anyway, there is NO WAY we will end up in a war with Libya, because our fearless leader told us we wouldn't. Quote
Guest Godless Posted March 22, 2011 Report Posted March 22, 2011 Well shoot, and I was looking forward to a "vacation" to Afghanistan next year. Quote
Family_Man Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Posted March 22, 2011 It's not that bad. Not as hot or dirty as my last vacation. Of course, it also snows here, which it didn't last time either. Quote
prophetofdoom Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Sadly, we've moved away from the Weinberger/Powell doctrine of limited warfare: how does it impact US security/safety? Is there a well defined goal(s)? What is the likelihood of success? What is the entire timeframe/cost?We left that far behind with Clinton in Bosnia/Serbia, and Bush in Iraq/Afghanistan, where we didn't count the full cost to our country, the world, and our military. Now we're expanding out and going to save people in every nation from their own dictators? Shall we also go against Bahrain? Saudi Arabia? Congo? How about Russia? Where do we stop, and if we keep pushing the world around, forcing it into our ideals, when will they begin to really push back? Does this make us imperialists? I think so. We may not be officially taking over the countries, but if we are in them for decades (like Iraq), it is the same as if we owned the place. Welcome to the United States of America, the totalitarian dictator of the globe.The protesters in Bahrain were being gunned down, but, we are not going in there for humanitarian reasons are we? This is the problem with being world police... there is no limit to the amount of military engagements we can find ourselves in. Quote
Traveler Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 Sadly, we've moved away from the Weinberger/Powell doctrine of limited warfare: how does it impact US security/safety? Is there a well defined goal(s)? What is the likelihood of success? What is the entire timeframe/cost?We left that far behind with Clinton in Bosnia/Serbia, and Bush in Iraq/Afghanistan, where we didn't count the full cost to our country, the world, and our military. Now we're expanding out and going to save people in every nation from their own dictators? Shall we also go against Bahrain? Saudi Arabia? Congo? How about Russia? Where do we stop, and if we keep pushing the world around, forcing it into our ideals, when will they begin to really push back? Does this make us imperialists? I think so. We may not be officially taking over the countries, but if we are in them for decades (like Iraq), it is the same as if we owned the place. Welcome to the United States of America, the totalitarian dictator of the globe. Do you have any idea what has been going on in Bahrain for the last 50 years? Did you know that the largest US navy base in the Middle East is in Bahrain. Do you know how it got there? Do you have any idea what we have pretended not to see and what we have supported in Bahrain with massive foreign aid to a county with a standard of living almost the same as ours? Do you know what happened in Bahrain on 9/11 when the twin towers fell? Here is a hint - you will not find the answer in our news media. I know because I have a friend from Bahrain whoes family still lives there.The Traveler Quote
rameumptom Posted March 24, 2011 Report Posted March 24, 2011 I was in the Air Force for 20 years. I know very well what goes on in many of the countries we have bases in. Quote
prophetofdoom Posted March 25, 2011 Report Posted March 25, 2011 Now I am curious to what happened in Bahrain on 9/11... I would like further light shed on the subject... Quote
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