Guest Monica Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 <div class='quotemain'>A rape victum that doesnt report the rape is just as guilty as the rapist because he/she allows the person to go free to repeat it on someone else and doesnt warn others of the danger.Can you imagine what kind of freak'n lunatic world we would live in if that were true.Thankfully civiled humanity, at least in the modern world, would never permit such evil.You're a piece of work Ari.LOL I am not ari, however what I posted is in the bible. Why do you argue with scripture? Quote
Snow Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 This revelation does make more sense than the theory (fact?) that she was Just Looking.I don't know what you mean. Just Looking? Quote
john doe Posted July 17, 2006 Report Posted July 17, 2006 Bible says that rapists and molestors get capital punishment. Since they are a small sector of the population, once they are taken out these crimes cease to exist.And yet again, you avoided the question. Are you really that thick-headed, or are you purposely pulling an Ari on us? I will take your non-answer to the question at hand as an admission that you would advocate killing your own child who has been the victim of rape. Sick, sick, sick. Do you really think that is what Jesus would have us do?I have no idea who ari is.Why would Snow be deceitful in this matter? He hasn't been banned from this site on multiple occasions as Ari has been. Do you think he can't track an IP address as a mod? These "wacky ideas" are what is in the bible. That is why I post the verses so you can see the documentation. You seem to forget that Jesus came to fulfill the law, and gave a new law, preaching love and compassion for one another, not advocating killing the victims of crimes. Try reading more from the New Testament side, and less from the Old Testament side, to find out how He wants us to live. I think He would have us take more from the NT than the OT.LDS use the Bible as well as the BOM, D&C, and Pearls. Ah, the question still remains, do YOU believe in them Monica/Ari? Are you even LDS as you claim? Why is it that you are so intent on always using OT scriptures to prove your wacky views, but never use any other scripture source used by common LDS? Is it because they disagree with you? Or are they just not as harsh as the OT is and you wish to follow the Mosaic Law? BTW, most LDS do not refer to that book of scripture as Pearls. Do you even know the correct name for it? I'll trust you won't cheat by using the internet to search for the answer. <div class='quotemain'>This revelation does make more sense than the theory (fact?) that she was Just Looking.I don't know what you mean. Just Looking?I don't want to speak out of turn, but it appears to me that he is trying to say he thought that Just Looking and Monica may be that same person. He was caught off guard by the suggestion that Ari is the same as Monica. Quote
Snow Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 Why would Snow be deceitful in this matter? He hasn't been banned from this site on multiple occasions as Ari has been. Do you think he can't track an IP address as a mod? I don't want to speak out of turn, but it appears to me that he is trying to say he thought that Just Looking and Monica may be that same person. He was caught off guard by the suggestion that Ari is the same as Monica.Well - let's put it this way, Ari, Monica and Just Looking all post from the same computer. I'll leave it to you to decide if there could be more than one person in the world like Are. Quote
Guest MrsS Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 Well - let's put it this way, Ari, Monica and Just Looking all post from the same computer. I'll leave it to you to decide if there could be more than one person in the world like Are. You have just proved that she is Ari/Just Looking, and she/they have been banned from this forum, then why has she been allowed to stay? Heather? Can you answer this too?Is there not someway to stop her from signing in again with a different username? If you can identify her computers digital signature, then why can't you block it? If it is because you don't have that ability, how much does it cost to get that abiltiy? I would donate money to help you get that ability. Any body else willing to donate money for that? Quote
Guest Monica Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 Lets look at the verses again:Deu 22:23 If a damsel [that is] a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; 24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, [being] in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you. In this case both the rapist and the victum are put to death, because she did not report the crime.Now look at the next situation:Deu 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: :26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; [there is] in the damsel no sin [worthy] of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so [is] this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, [and] the betrothed damsel cried, and [there was] none to save her. In this case no one was there to report it to so she is not guilty. Now the topic is children having sex since the experts suggest giving the vaccine to 9 year old girls, because this is the age before the average little girl loses her virginity.This is what the bible commands to happen to girls who are promiscuous before marriage: Deu 22:13 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, 14 And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: 15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth [the tokens of] the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: 16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; 17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech [against her], saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these [are the tokens of] my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. 18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; 19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred [shekels] of silver, and give [them] unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20 But if this thing be true, [and the tokens of] virginity be not found for the damsel: 21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. Now these verses are all in your bible, so your arguement isnt with me, but with the word of God.His word is so clear NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE.As for ari and just looking, who are these people? Why are you upset with them? Quote
Guest Monica Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 How many of those who posted in this thread read the article? http://www.cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe...et.exclude.htmlThe article mentions the real reason why they are giving the vaccine and why at this age. Quote
sgallan Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 The article mentions the real reason why they are giving the vaccine and why at this age.Doesn't matter. Your attitude of "let them die" for a utopian concept has been flushed out. Now if you are cool with that then so be it. But the courts would probably take your kids away if it came down to a medical emergency. Quote
Guest Monica Posted July 18, 2006 Report Posted July 18, 2006 The article mentions the real reason why they are giving the vaccine and why at this age.Doesn't matter. Your attitude of "let them die" for a utopian concept has been flushed out. Now if you are cool with that then so be it. But the courts would probably take your kids away if it came down to a medical emergency.My attitude is not mine. It comes from scriptures which I posted in context. Now people can choose to obey God and have blessings or reject God and have curses. Each person has their choice to make.Despite what anyone's opinions or views are, God word cant be changed or broken. It is eternal and lasts forever.People can try to get around what God has commanded, but there are no loopholes. We already see the catastrophic results of sin and disobidence to God in sickness and death in this matter as well as others we havent discussed here.Remember, there is no 100% perfect vaccine. There are always adverse reactions, allergic reactions, and since this is a new vaccine the studies arent in yet for any other negative effects that can result from this.In the past we have seen children contract polio from polio vaccines, autism from mercury in other vaccines, and those will egg allergies get sick from the flu shot.Bottom line is that like it or not, the ONLY thing that works is God's way. His way is perfect and just.Keep in mind, that God's commandments arent given to limit us, but to bring us safety and a good, full, and long life. God's commandments are no different than the traffic rules we obey to ensure safety on the road. However, when someone breaks a traffic law, traffic collisions can happen.Now, you say you dont believe in God. I can respect that, as it is your choice, your right, and your perrogative. But what you believe can never change the reality that God is real and all of His words in scriptures are always true.If you want proof, just look at the verses I posted in this thread again and look at the results of the sin in sickness and in death coming to pass, just as they were foretold long ago. I wish you Peace in Jesus name Quote
Snow Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 My attitude is not mine. It comes from scriptures which I posted in context. Now people can choose to obey God and have blessings or reject God and have curses. Each person has their choice to make.You're full of it. You have no business lecturing people about morality when you yourself are immoral, being deceitful about your identity and then continuing to be dishonest about it once caught. Quote
sgallan Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Now, you say you dont believe in God. I can respect that, as it is your choice, your right, and your perrogative. But what you believe can never change the reality that God is real and all of His words in scriptures are always true.That's what they all say. Now I just see a fanatic (a immoral lying fanatic at that) who would have a child die. You are not particularly unique either. Fanatics do stuff like this all of the time.... and worse. And they even lie and do immoral things to cover themselves. Quote
prisonchaplain Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 I don't know what you mean. Just Looking?During much of the Ari era there was another poster named Just Looking (from Puerto Rico). JL did not state her religion, but in chats and PMs told people she was a 'prayer minister.' Seemed like a Charismatic to me. When the whole Ari thing blew up (as well as the Seth thing), she took sides with both of them, and then disappeared.Recently, someone suggested that "Monica" was "Just Looking" reincarnate. You've proffered the Ari theory, and based on the posts, your guess seems more likely. Though, here she is directly denying it, so I'm back to the drawing board. Quote
sgallan Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 Snow has the advantage of being able to check ISP's.... Quote
john doe Posted July 19, 2006 Report Posted July 19, 2006 I wish you Peace in Jesus nameInteresting that you would bring up your cohort Peace. I always found it sad that you assisted her over the edge and encouraged her to say and do more and more wacky things. When she could keep her cool she actually had some good points to make, but you just kept pushing her buttons in the guise of being her friend until she finally snapped. Quote
Guest Monica Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 The topic is about giving a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease to 9 year old girls, because according to experts this is the time to do it just before they have sex. And that children are now having sexual realtions. Isnt this a crime? Quote
Snow Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 The topic is about giving a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease to 9 year old girls, because according to experts this is the time to do it just before they have sex. And that children are now having sexual realtions. Isnt this a crime?On the other hand, I think this thread is now about your disgusting beliefs and you lying about your identity Ari. Quote
Guest Monica Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 <div class='quotemain'>The topic is about giving a vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease to 9 year old girls, because according to experts this is the time to do it just before they have sex. And that children are now having sexual realtions. Isnt this a crime?On the other hand, I think this thread is now about your disgusting beliefs and you lying about your identity Ari. Quote
shanstress70 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 <div class='quotemain'>I don't know what you mean. Just Looking?During much of the Ari era there was another poster named Just Looking (from Puerto Rico). JL did not state her religion, but in chats and PMs told people she was a 'prayer minister.' Seemed like a Charismatic to me. When the whole Ari thing blew up (as well as the Seth thing), she took sides with both of them, and then disappeared.Recently, someone suggested that "Monica" was "Just Looking" reincarnate. You've proffered the Ari theory, and based on the posts, your guess seems more likely. Though, here she is directly denying it, so I'm back to the drawing board. Then I had another theory, that Monica was really Setheus AGAIN. But I guess that was blown out of the water too with Snow seeing her IP. Quote
Jason Posted July 20, 2006 Report Posted July 20, 2006 Yes well - the bible also says that God commanded his followers to kill their enemies, murder the wives, enslave the children, rape the virgins, kill the camels and steal the cattle.I thought it was rape the horses and steal the women? Isn't that what Chevy..er..god said? <div class='quotemain'>Why would Snow be deceitful in this matter? He hasn't been banned from this site on multiple occasions as Ari has been. Do you think he can't track an IP address as a mod? I don't want to speak out of turn, but it appears to me that he is trying to say he thought that Just Looking and Monica may be that same person. He was caught off guard by the suggestion that Ari is the same as Monica.Well - let's put it this way, Ari, Monica and Just Looking all post from the same computer. I'll leave it to you to decide if there could be more than one person in the world like Are.Just for the record, I identified Monica as Ari within the first week she showed up. Then a Mod (don't remember which) told me it couldn't be her. Someone's lying, and it's not just Ari. Quote
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