Sealings quiz

[Juan_P]

CAUTION: This quiz requires legalistic parsing based on the incomplete knowledge we possess at this time. It is therefore not advisable for you to base your future actions or testimony on a silly internet quiz, this or any other.

RULES:

Brother Bart is sealed to Sister Suzie in the temple. Tragically, they divorce some time later, but do not get their sealing dissolved at that time. Bart then marries Therese in a civil ceremony, and together they produce little Xaviera.

QUESTION 1: Is Xaviera born in the covenant?

• Yes, Xaviera is born in the covenant of her father Bart and Suzie, to whom he is sealed.
• No, Xaviera is not born in the covenant.

During this time period, Suzie also remarries in a civil ceremony. She and her husband Charlie welcome a new baby, Yolando.

QUESTION 2: Is Yolando born in the covenant?

• Yes, Yolando is born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and Bart, to whom she is sealed.
• No, Yolando is not born in the covenant.

After some time, Bart and Therese are sealed. Suzie has her sealing to Bart cancelled, and then she is sealed to Charlie.

QUESTION 3: Can little Xaviera be sealed to her parents?

• Of course she can be sealed to her father Bart and to her real, biological mother Therese. She was never sealed to anyone else in the first place.
• Of course she can be sealed to her father Bart and to her real, biological mother Therese. Her sealing to Bart and Suzie is of no effect, since the sealing between them no longer exists.
• Of course not; she was born in the covenant of her father Bart and his first wife Suzie, so another sealing is meaningless.

QUESTION 4: Can baby Yolando be sealed to his parents?

• Of course he can be sealed to his real, biological father Charlie and to his mother Suzie. He was never sealed to anyone else in the first place.
• Of course he can be sealed to his real, biological father Charlie and to his mother Suzie. His sealing to Bart and Suzie is of no effect, since the sealing between them no longer exists.
• Of course not; he was born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and her first husband Bart, so another sealing is meaningless.

Yolando and Xaviera grow up, meet, and against all odds fall in love and are married.

QUESTION 5: Isn't this kind of like, um, incest or something?

• This is totally just wrong.
• Hmmm. No, not incest, because they aren't related by blood. Just weird.
• Oooh, yuck, I can't think about this!

QUESTION 6: Who pays for the reception?

• Bride's parents.
• Groom's parents.
• They split the cost.
• Let the darn kids pay for it themselves.

Bart and Suzie's long-lost daughter Wanda comes back one day.

QUESTION 7: How is she introduced by Yolando and Xaviera at Church?

• "This is my sister and, um, Yolando's sister, too"?
• "Xaviera and I have a sister in common, and, well, here she is."
• "Hi, we're Wanda, Xaviera, and Yolando, and we're visiting your ward today."

EDIT: My answers, in case you're interested (select to view):

• Is Xaviera born in the covenant? ( B ) No, Xaviera is not born in the covenant.
• Is Yolando born in the covenant? ( A ) Yes, Yolando is born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and Bart, to whom she is sealed.
• Can little Xaviera be sealed to her parents? ( A ) Of course she can be sealed to her father Bart and to her real, biological mother Therese. She was never sealed to anyone else in the first place.
• Can baby Yolando be sealed to his parents? ( C ) Of course not; he was born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and her first husband Bart, so another sealing is meaningless.
• Isn't this kind of like, um, incest or something? ( B ) Hmmm. No, not incest, because they aren't related by blood. Just weird.
• Who pays for the reception? ( D ) Let the darn kids pay for it themselves.
• How is Wanda introduced by Yolando and Xaviera at Church? ( C ) "Hi, we're Wanda, Xaviera, and Yolando, and we're visiting your ward today."

Question 1 is incorrect imho. Section 3.6.2 of Book 1 clearly states that a Sealing needs to be cancelled or revoke by excommunication for these children to NOT be born in covenant. Therefore, Xaviera IS 'born in covenant' due to Bart/Susy sealing which still stands. Also born in covenant means that the child will have a right to eternal parents but does not necesarily establish who those parents will be. This isn't determined just by the sex of the parent.

Question 2: Yes due to same reasons as in Q1

Question 3: Xaviera is already BIC however there are provisions in place to request to the first presidency to have Xavier sealed to her biological parents after all/any legal paperwork is done with.

Question 4: Yolando, as in 3, paperwork needs doing for first presidency to approve this even though Yolando is already BIC

Question 5: Yolando produced by (Suzy/Charlie); Xaviera produced by (Bart/Therse) so sure, they can marry and be sealed without problems.So B but not weired.

Question 6: Make the kids pay themselves...

Question 7: 'Sister', as all mormon women are!

[classylady]

Sorry, Juan P, but in the first question the child is not BIC. This is exactly what happened to my husband and me. He had previously been sealed. He later divorced. He married me civilly. We later were sealed in the temple, but after the birth of our first child. Our first child was not BIC and needed to be sealed to us.

[Anddenex]

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Brother Bart is sealed to Sister Suzie in the temple. Tragically, they divorce some time later, but do not get their sealing dissolved at that time. Bart then marries Therese in a civil ceremony, and together they produce little Xaviera.

QUESTION 1: Is Xaviera born in the covenant?

• Yes, Xaviera is born in the covenant of her father Bart and Suzie, to whom he is sealed.
• No, Xaviera is not born in the covenant.

During this time period, Suzie also remarries in a civil ceremony. She and her husband Charlie welcome a new baby, Yolando.

QUESTION 2: Is Yolando born in the covenant?

• Yes, Yolando is born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and Bart, to whom she is sealed.
• No, Yolando is not born in the covenant.

After some time, Bart and Therese are sealed. Suzie has her sealing to Bart cancelled, and then she is sealed to Charlie.

QUESTION 3: Can little Xaviera be sealed to her parents?

• Of course she can be sealed to her father Bart and to her real, biological mother Therese. She was never sealed to anyone else in the first place.
• Of course she can be sealed to her father Bart and to her real, biological mother Therese. Her sealing to Bart and Suzie is of no effect, since the sealing between them no longer exists.
• Of course not; she was born in the covenant of her father Bart and his first wife Suzie, so another sealing is meaningless.

QUESTION 4: Can baby Yolando be sealed to his parents?

• Of course he can be sealed to his real, biological father Charlie and to his mother Suzie. He was never sealed to anyone else in the first place.
• Of course he can be sealed to his real, biological father Charlie and to his mother Suzie. His sealing to Bart and Suzie is of no effect, since the sealing between them no longer exists.
• Of course not; he was born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and her first husband Bart, so another sealing is meaningless.

Yolando and Xaviera grow up, meet, and against all odds fall in love and are married.

QUESTION 5: Isn't this kind of like, um, incest or something?

• This is totally just wrong.
• Hmmm. No, not incest, because they aren't related by blood. Just weird.
• Oooh, yuck, I can't think about this!

QUESTION 6: Who pays for the reception?

• Bride's parents.
• Groom's parents.
• They split the cost.
• Let the darn kids pay for it themselves.

Bart and Suzie's long-lost daughter Wanda comes back one day.

QUESTION 7: How is she introduced by Yolando and Xaviera at Church?

• "This is my sister and, um, Yolando's sister, too"?
• "Xaviera and I have a sister in common, and, well, here she is."
• "Hi, we're Wanda, Xaviera, and Yolando, and we're visiting your ward today."

I am just going to stick with your answers Vort, without editing them and say they are my own. How I understand the sealing is the same as you understand it. Except for the reception question, I have emphasized the statement to show the change.

Is Xaviera born in the covenant? ( B ) No, Xaviera is not born in the covenant.

Is Yolando born in the covenant? ( A ) Yes, Yolando is born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and Bart, to whom she is sealed.

Can little Xaviera be sealed to her parents? ( A ) Of course she can be sealed to her father Bart and to her real, biological mother Therese. She was never sealed to anyone else in the first place.

Can baby Yolando be sealed to his parents? ( C ) Of course not; he was born in the covenant of his mother Suzie and her first husband Bart, so another sealing is meaningless.

Isn't this kind of like, um, incest or something? ( B ) Hmmm. No, not incest, because they aren't related by blood. Just weird.

Who pays for the reception? ( D ) I like the idea of the kids paying for it, however if I have sufficient funds, or the in-laws family has money, we can split some costs to assist the children. If parents are paying for the reception they should accept whatever monetary capability the parents have without an expectation of a $10K reception.

How is Wanda introduced by Yolando and Xaviera at Church? ( C ) "Hi, we're Wanda, Xaviera, and Yolando, and we're visiting your ward today."