Justice Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I have a new favorite document.I'm sure it will be short-lived, until I find another one.As many of you know, I have been speaking to a friend at work for the past year and a half about religion. He is Christian, and he thinks the Book of Mormon was written by Joesph Smith. He claims the many changes that have been made over the years are evidence it is a false book.After listening to this line of talk several times, I decided to do some research on my own. I found many articles, but this is my favorite:Changes in the Book of MormonI LOVE that article. I highly suggest you take the time to read it. It's dry, afterall he's a Skousen! But, seriously, take the time to read it. It will make you go hmmm over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamjet Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 With that logic, I'd hate to ask him about the Bible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backroads Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 slamjet needs a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) With that logic, I'd hate to ask him about the Bible. http://bible.org/article/inspiration-preservation-and-new-testament-textual-criticismTextual criticism of the many books of the Bible is a reality. The article that Justice has supplied is very interesting - textual criticism of the Book of Mormon is a great idea.M. Edited September 23, 2011 by Maureen changed the link to a better one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexviper13 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'd recommend they read Book of Mormon Authorship. Its really good. It goes into detail about many different things in the Book of Mormon that verify it to be ancient scripture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'd recommend they read Book of Mormon Authorship. Its really good. It goes into detail about many different things in the Book of Mormon that verify it to be ancient scripture. Who's they apexviper13?M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexviper13 Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Who's they apexviper13?M.I was referring to the friend. Accidentally said "they". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 "They" is fine. I totally forgot that the OP mentioned the "friend". Thanks! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeKook Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) I'm less concerned about potential changes to the Book of Mormon and more concerned with trying to explain why certain phrases appear in it that are exactly the same as what's in the the Bible (and I'm not just talking about quotes from Isaiah). Friends have questioned me about it and I simply do not have an explanation - some of the phrasing is exactly as it appears in the New Testament, which it would seem to me the Mormon prophets didn't have in their possession. That being said, my faith is still solid - I go by the witness of the Holy Spirit in this case. I'd just like to be able to explain the phrasing thing. LOL! Edited September 27, 2011 by LeKook Sometimes I'm just not clear, LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 Which phrases in particular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeKook Posted September 27, 2011 Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I'll grab a few when I get a chance and post them. I don't want to mess with anyone's belief either, and won't post them here if I suspect it might do so. When I prayed about this to resolve it in my own heart, the response I got was that there are billions of people in the world, and why can't God say the same thing to more than one person, in the same way? In other words, what's it to me? God is God. He will convey truth however he likes, to whomever he likes. That was enough for me not to make an issue of it. I can't speak for anyone else. I was humbled enough by that answer to leave it alone, LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted September 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2011 I think that's a good answer. I'll go a step further... if it really IS God speaking to 2 different people or 2 different nations, why WOULDN'T He say the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeKook Posted September 29, 2011 Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 I think that's a good answer.I'll go a step further... if it really IS God speaking to 2 different people or 2 different nations, why WOULDN'T He say the same thing?It's not what he said, but how he said it (verbatim quote) that throws people off. And I'm like, "He's God, isn't he? Wouldn't he actually know (verbatim!) what he said in the first place?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted September 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2011 Ahhh, OK, so that's where the language translation would come in. You know, if you read that link in my original post, it's really astounding the evidence found of the purity and exactness of the phrases in the original, meaning what Joseph Smith spoke as he translated. Very powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) I'm less concerned about potential changes to the Book of Mormon and more concerned with trying to explain why certain phrases appear in it that are exactly the same as what's in the the Bible (and I'm not just talking about quotes from Isaiah). Friends have questioned me about it and I simply do not have an explanation - some of the phrasing is exactly as it appears in the New Testament, which it would seem to me the Mormon prophets didn't have in their possession. That being said, my faith is still solid - I go by the witness of the Holy Spirit in this case. I'd just like to be able to explain the phrasing thing. LOL!one explanation is; that phraseology was what JS was familar with, having grown up around the bible, as an intrepreter if something made more sense to say it that way to make a concept more understandable, then he would. Translating is not merely just moving word over to word, but a good translater is able to take the concepts, meanings, and ideas present in a phrase and then give an equivalent phrase, or one that is as close as possible in the language he is translating to. Edited September 30, 2011 by Blackmarch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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