Never, ever, ever do business with someone in your ward.

[Traveler]

Its one of my personal 10 Commandments not to do business with members. I have been burnt on several occasions and it makes it very difficult sitting across them in an Endowment Room.

Have you ever been burned when there was a contract?

The Traveler

[Lakumi]

something tells me not many Mormons collect ball jointed dolls (the only thing anymore I spend large amounts of money on) so I think I will be fine.

[NeuroTypical]

Part 4: A non-compliance agreement. A direct statement of what will occur if one party or the other does not do what is agreed to in the contract. This can spell out for example any "penlites" for extending the schedule or it could specify no penlites for a schedule change that made following certain met milestones and agreed to by both parties but with additional penlites if the new schedule is not met.

IMO, this part is the most difficult for a lot of people. Because for whatever reason, we're worried that talking about such things will come across as not believing or trusting the other party.

(Probably a big chunk of the reason why we're worried, is because so many people actually will get all bent out of shape at the mere notion that things might not go perfectly.)

[Drpepper]

Have you ever been burned when there was a contract?

The Traveler

I dont have contracts for my other clients, why should i have them for dealing with members?

[Bini]

I dont have contracts for my other clients, why should i have them for dealing with members?

I think the point was that regardless of member or non-member, when doing business you should take the necessary precautions to protect yourself, and contracts help with this.

[Drpepper]

I think the point was that regardless of member or non-member, when doing business you should take the necessary precautions to protect yourself, and contracts help with this.

I have been in business for 15 years for myself and over that time have only had 2 people that never paid me. Both were members... I also did a shoot for our area presidency once in which i only charged $500 which only just covered my cost for the equipment I hired. They sent me a cheque for $250. Needless to say my personal experience with members and the church hasn't been great when it comes to business.

The issue for me isn't so much about the money. Its the resentment and feeling of being used

that can eat away if you let it.

Personally now i just don't like doing business with members as a rule, i don't like members approaching my wife on Sundays for tupperware parties, i don't like the various pyramid schemes and cancer healing juices that trend through the church every so often.

Sadly there is a looooong list of members who have been burnt, fried and left out to dry by bad schemes, shonky work, investments that have devoured savings plans and quick rich agendas by other members.

Thats just my opinion, and it works for me. Its also the reason why you will never see me start a thread like this one.