People Swearing

[Outshined]

Have you guys seen the Orbit gum commercial where the man and woman are swearing at each other? They call each other "doo-doo head" "big stinky stink face" and such. It's pretty funny.

EDIT: I found it online!! http://www.splendad.com/ads/show/863-Orbit-Euphemisms

[Dr T]

Haha. "You lint-licker!"

[Outshined]

"What the french toast?"

[a-train]

It is interesting to think that there are languages that do not contain 'curse words'. While much of what our moms are steaming over today is in the KJV of the Bible and can be used both there and in cursing contexts, the king of all that is profane is perversion of language in its usage itself and it seems to bear little capability to convey much meaning without complete reliance on context.

Perhaps the use of a single word for virtually any meaning is profane in and of itself without benefit of any implication through the etymology of the term in the first place. Consider how those that use the ol' F-Bomb do so as a verb, adjective, noun, or as anything else they want to emphasize within their speech.

It is interesting to consider words such as 'dude' that exhibit similar capability in usage. The term can be an exclamation, an expression of sorrow, a cry of frustration, a title, and much more. In many cases, it bares no similarity whatsoever to its true definition. It is a wild-card in the game of expression, but is only a bug joker compared to the fully wild duece (the 'F' word).

The truth is, the rappers and poets of our modern era are in many ways more advanced and as capable as the greats who are cherished by our professors within the universities of the world. The great frustration is the fact that they are as a pearl of great price on the floor of an ocean of impostors. It is easy to see in a bout of spontaneous poetic expression set to a beat and a rhyme scheme that a total wildcard could become a crutch for those less capable. Add to that the fact that it is met with resistance and received with shock and you have the go-to term in the rap game.

Modern urban vernacular seems to be in a bona fide war against orthodox diction itself. We continually and habitually modify and ruin our language in our efforts to appear as the real poets who stand at the helm of language and easily grab specific notions from the sea of terms at their fingertips.

Let us not assume that the use of these wild-cards are any indication of malice or intended malfeasance. Further, let us remember that the most hurtful and damaging statements that could be made against could be so spoken without benefit of any of the earmarked terms our moms are so unhappy with.

We alone choose whether or not to be offended.

We in our agency can solely choose to seek understanding rather than judgement.

Do NOT get me wrong, I intend to follow the admonitions of my mother, but I intend also to prevent the walls of judgement and pride from rising between me and my fellow man over their use of nothing more than a four letter word.

-a-train

[john doe]

In my line of work (cars, service at one job, parts at another), I hear swearing quite a bit. Sometimes I use a few words in anger or pain myself. But when it gets to be a major portion of the conversation, or abusive, loud and obnoxious, I draw the line. I have kicked people out of my store for refusing to rein in their emotions to the point where they could control their language. I tell them they are being overly loud and creating a hostile environment for my other customers and fellow employees, and if they can't exercise control over their words, they need to leave until they can. There is absolutely no reason for a customer to be abusive to the employees who are under my watch. If there is a problem the customer can speak to me calmly and we will work things out, but I don't allow them to be abusive to my people.

Some people are jerks, and when they figure out that they can get whatever they want by using abusive language, they will only do it more, knowing that they can embarrass you into giving them things they don't really deserve. I've had people actually come back and apologize for they way they acted when they realized they have acted inappropriately. I say stand your ground against bullies and don't give in just because they think they can steamroll you.

[Guest mamacat]

It is interesting to think that there are languages that do not contain 'curse words'. While much of what our moms are steaming over today is in the KJV of the Bible and can be used both there and in cursing contexts, the king of all that is profane is perversion of language in its usage itself and it seems to bear little capability to convey much meaning without complete reliance on context.

Perhaps the use of a single word for virtually any meaning is profane in and of itself without benefit of any implication through the etymology of the term in the first place. Consider how those that use the ol' F-Bomb do so as a verb, adjective, noun, or as anything else they want to emphasize within their speech.

It is interesting to consider words such as 'dude' that exhibit similar capability in usage. The term can be an exclamation, an expression of sorrow, a cry of frustration, a title, and much more. In many cases, it bares no similarity whatsoever to its true definition. It is a wild-card in the game of expression, but is only a bug joker compared to the fully wild duece (the 'F' word).

The truth is, the rappers and poets of our modern era are in many ways more advanced and as capable as the greats who are cherished by our professors within the universities of the world. The great frustration is the fact that they are as a pearl of great price on the floor of an ocean of impostors. It is easy to see in a bout of spontaneous poetic expression set to a beat and a rhyme scheme that a total wildcard could become a crutch for those less capable. Add to that the fact that it is met with resistance and received with shock and you have the go-to term in the rap game.

Modern urban vernacular seems to be in a bona fide war against orthodox diction itself. We continually and habitually modify and ruin our language in our efforts to appear as the real poets who stand at the helm of language and easily grab specific notions from the sea of terms at their fingertips.

Let us not assume that the use of these wild-cards are any indication of malice or intended malfeasance. Further, let us remember that the most hurtful and damaging statements that could be made against could be so spoken without benefit of any of the earmarked terms our moms are so unhappy with.

We alone choose whether or not to be offended.

We in our agency can solely choose to seek understanding rather than judgement.

Do NOT get me wrong, I intend to follow the admonitions of my mother, but I intend also to prevent the walls of judgement and pride from rising between me and my fellow man over their use of nothing more than a four letter word.

-a-train

you are a guru.

[Guest Username-Removed]

Wow, I had no idea everyone had so much to say! LOL.

Just a follow up ... I tried Mama's Swearing Solution (you should write a book!) and it worked like a charm!

I just turned down my headset volume a bit, looked around for pictures and other things on my desk, and blocked it out. The person then used the lords name in a very bad way, I quickly turned down the volume again, and actually thought about the things the Lord did for me, and those bad things the customer had said, bounced right off me. It was incredibly peaceful. Its amazing what a thought can do in a quick moment. One other thing, I seemed to notice that many of my callers, who were deeply upset, did a 360 after talking with me. I'll have to study that one some more. Perhaps those thoughts of the savior someone were transitioned to them - I dont know for sure how, but I can tell you it was a wonderful day.

I had one of the best nights sleep I've ever had. Isn't it great a guy like me can come to a place like this and get some real practical help. Thank you guys! And mama, you are the best!

One more thing, I keep being reminded of President Holland's talk on "The Tongue of Angels". A few quotes from that talk located here at the link .... http://lds.org/conference/talk/display/0,5...1-690-7,00.html

"And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you." (reference to Ephesians 4:29–32.

"In that same spirit we speak to the sisters as well, for the sin of verbal abuse knows no gender. Wives, what of the unbridled tongue in your mouth, of the power for good or ill in your words? How is it that such a lovely voice which by divine nature is so angelic, so close to the veil, so instinctively gentle and inherently kind could ever in a turn be so shrill, so biting, so acrid and untamed? A woman's words can be more piercing than any dagger ever forged, and they can drive the people they love to retreat beyond a barrier more distant than anyone in the beginning of that exchange could ever have imagined. Sisters, there is no place in that magnificent spirit of yours for acerbic or abrasive expression of any kind, including gossip or backbiting or catty remarks. Let it never be said of our home or our ward or our neighborhood that "the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity . . . [burning] among our members."

"Husbands, you have been entrusted with the most sacred gift God can give you—a wife, a daughter of God, the mother of your children who has voluntarily given herself to you for love and joyful companionship. Think of the kind things you said when you were courting, think of the blessings you have given with hands placed lovingly upon her head, think of yourself and of her as the god and goddess you both inherently are, and then reflect on other moments characterized by cold, caustic, unbridled words. Given the damage that can be done with our tongues, little wonder the Savior said, "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."5 A husband who would never dream of striking his wife physically can break, if not her bones, then certainly her heart by the brutality of thoughtless or unkind speech. Physical abuse is uniformly and unequivocally condemned in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If it is possible to be more condemning than that, we speak even more vigorously against all forms of sexual abuse. Today, I speak against verbal and emotional abuse of anyone against anyone, but especially of husbands against wives. Brethren, these things ought not to be.'

Pretty cool -

[StrawberryFields]

Good News WordFlood. :)

[Guest mamacat]

that's so great that you were successful WordFlood. i'm pleased that the exercise worked for you, and that you found that you are able to transform the energy around you....and maybe even help others as well.

what you said in particular ~

Its amazing what a thought can do in a quick moment. One other thing, I seemed to notice that many of my callers, who were deeply upset, did a 360 after talking with me. I'll have to study that one some more. Perhaps those thoughts of the savior someone were transitioned to them - I dont know for sure how, but I can tell you it was a wonderful day.

so true. you might like the book As a Man Thinketh. it's a well-known book, written in 1902 and one that i had wished to read for quite a while. imagine my surprise when i found it on the bookshelf at my local LDS bookstore! published by deseret book co., with an introduction by a LDS person of importance, can't remember who, as i gave the book away....anyway, it isn't voluminous at all, as a matter of fact you can read it online at the following site ~

http://jamesallen.wwwhubs.com/think.htm

the title is from the phrase "As a man thinketh in his heart so is he,"

from the book ~

Mind is the Master power that moulds and makes,

And Man is Mind, and evermore he takes

The tool of Thought, and, shaping what he wills,

Brings forth a thousand joys, a thousand ills:—

He thinks in secret, and it comes to pass:

Environment is but his looking-glass.

i loved that talk by President Holland...as we were watching him speak at church, my son was playing on the floor trying to distract the attention of those around us (GC was a long time for an active 4 yr old to sit....) i could tell that the talk had an effect, as an elder, sitting next to us, rather than becoming annoyed at my babe, began giving him some kind attention. it was pretty cool. :)

much love, mamacat

[ldsrebel]

Think of your favorite Hymn!

[Dr T]

One other thing, I seemed to notice that many of my callers, who were deeply upset, did a 360 after talking with me.

I think you meant 180

[Guest Username-Removed]

The doctor is IN! LOL

[prisonchaplain]

Maybe saying, "You kiss your mother with that mouth?" isn't the nicest way of dealing with it?

LOL.

Seriously, working in a jail, I run into this occasionally. I've taught myself not to take on the responsibility of other people's vocabulary. If they use the name of my God, or invoke my God for some curse, then I might just say, "Hey!" That's usually enough. You'll know right away if they are receptive, or if they are stubbornly going to insist that they can say what they want.

[Guest Yediyd]

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Just don't let it bother you so much, I'm not really sure how to explain it more eloquently. Its just a mental toughness you have to develop.

Most of the time you would spend vainly trying to get people to change their ways, could be put to far more productive uses, especially in a work environment. If it is a coworker that is harassing you, I'm sure your workplace has official policies that you could use to resolve you situation.

Its not at all that Im trying to change them, I dont like the hate I hear. Just so you know, Im a motorhead and I've worked a lot with engine builders of all types. People swearing in a jovial manor doesnt offend me in the least. But when they use the "F" word, and tell me to ... off, and try to get personal with it, it feels threatening to me. Maybe I just need to realize they are on the other end of the phone and electrons and photons cant hurt me LOL.

I have no idea why people get bent out of shape on something like this. Its like their world has come to an end. One time someone called and did that over the phone, used the "F" word, "S" word, called me several names, and questioned by parentage, then asked me what country I was in. I replyed, "Im in the state of Utah, and according to your customer records, you are about 18 blocks from me" ..."So, I guess that puts you in 5th ward doesn't it?"

AWSOME comeback, wordflood! what did he say?

[Guest Yediyd]

"What the french toast?"

Ever been up an unsanitary tributary without suffishent (sp?) means of locomotion?

It is interesting to think that there are languages that do not contain 'curse words'. While much of what our moms are steaming over today is in the KJV of the Bible and can be used both there and in cursing contexts, the king of all that is profane is perversion of language in its usage itself and it seems to bear little capability to convey much meaning without complete reliance on context.

Perhaps the use of a single word for virtually any meaning is profane in and of itself without benefit of any implication through the etymology of the term in the first place. Consider how those that use the ol' F-Bomb do so as a verb, adjective, noun, or as anything else they want to emphasize within their speech.

It is interesting to consider words such as 'dude' that exhibit similar capability in usage. The term can be an exclamation, an expression of sorrow, a cry of frustration, a title, and much more. In many cases, it bares no similarity whatsoever to its true definition. It is a wild-card in the game of expression, but is only a bug joker compared to the fully wild duece (the 'F' word).

The truth is, the rappers and poets of our modern era are in many ways more advanced and as capable as the greats who are cherished by our professors within the universities of the world. The great frustration is the fact that they are as a pearl of great price on the floor of an ocean of impostors. It is easy to see in a bout of spontaneous poetic expression set to a beat and a rhyme scheme that a total wildcard could become a crutch for those less capable. Add to that the fact that it is met with resistance and received with shock and you have the go-to term in the rap game.

Modern urban vernacular seems to be in a bona fide war against orthodox diction itself. We continually and habitually modify and ruin our language in our efforts to appear as the real poets who stand at the helm of language and easily grab specific notions from the sea of terms at their fingertips.

Let us not assume that the use of these wild-cards are any indication of malice or intended malfeasance. Further, let us remember that the most hurtful and damaging statements that could be made against could be so spoken without benefit of any of the earmarked terms our moms are so unhappy with.

We alone choose whether or not to be offended.

We in our agency can solely choose to seek understanding rather than judgement.

Do NOT get me wrong, I intend to follow the admonitions of my mother, but I intend also to prevent the walls of judgement and pride from rising between me and my fellow man over their use of nothing more than a four letter word.

-a-train

You go...A-train!

[Guest Username-Removed]

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Just don't let it bother you so much, I'm not really sure how to explain it more eloquently. Its just a mental toughness you have to develop.

Most of the time you would spend vainly trying to get people to change their ways, could be put to far more productive uses, especially in a work environment. If it is a coworker that is harassing you, I'm sure your workplace has official policies that you could use to resolve you situation.

Its not at all that Im trying to change them, I dont like the hate I hear. Just so you know, Im a motorhead and I've worked a lot with engine builders of all types. People swearing in a jovial manor doesnt offend me in the least. But when they use the "F" word, and tell me to ... off, and try to get personal with it, it feels threatening to me. Maybe I just need to realize they are on the other end of the phone and electrons and photons cant hurt me LOL.

I have no idea why people get bent out of shape on something like this. Its like their world has come to an end. One time someone called and did that over the phone, used the "F" word, "S" word, called me several names, and questioned by parentage, then asked me what country I was in. I replyed, "Im in the state of Utah, and according to your customer records, you are about 18 blocks from me" ..."So, I guess that puts you in 5th ward doesn't it?"

AWSOME comeback, wordflood! what did he say?

He went silent and I'm sure he felt stupid, especially when I still helped him with his issue.

I have not had a problem since I have learned that photons and electrons cant hurt me ! LOL ... I turn the volume down and let them rant. When they are finished, they either hang up because they are so angry they cant function, or calm themselves down and learn a little something. I realize its their choice on how the call will turn out in the end.

However, ATRAIN, if someone said the "F" word in my face in anger, along with questioning my parentage, and I felt threatened, the law is clear on that --- fighting words are not protected by law. and its definately not poetry - I know that because I am one.

I have no problem with anybody swearing in a poem, song, or in just talking. However, when they mix it with hate in a threatening manner and appear to be ready for a fight, thats not a lyrics to a song or poetry: thats something else.

By the way, I do believe President Holland had something to say about that in the last conference talk. Would you like the link to that talk?