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[cdowis]

There are two different types of marriages -- the marriage for time (mortality), and spiritual (eternal sealing) marriage which takes effect only AFTER this life.  

They are not the same thing.

[cdowis]

>>Mormonism is a satanic cult

The scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, "He is possessed by Beelzebul," and "He casts out the demons by the ruler of the demons."

Luke 6 [22] Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. [23] Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

Hallelujah! I leap with joy.
We have modern day Pharasees, as well as living prophets.

Edited October 29, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Polyandry

This section has been revised based on the latest research, such as the DNA studies. See especially footnote 30.

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[30] Hales, Joseph Smith’s Polygamy, 1:421–37. Polyandry, the marriage of one woman to more than one man, typically involves shared financial, residential, and sexual resources, and children are often raised communally. *There is NO evidence that Joseph Smith’s sealings functioned in this way, and MUCH EVIDENCE works against that view*

NOTE: Hale's book is the latest research on this subject. Again see the videos by them.

[cdowis]

FAITH VS WORKS

I will let the Bible answer your question

Mark 16 [16] He that believeth and is baptized (a work) shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Jas.2

[20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[24] Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

[26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

 

What does Peter say about Paul;s writings ==>>

2 Peter 3 [16] As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

The mouth will not save us ==>>

LukE 6 [46] And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and DO not the things which I say?

Matt 7 [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH the will of my Father which is in heaven.

 

Edited November 10, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

>>revelation chapter 22 verse 18, if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book.

You telling God that He cannot add to His word? Pretty arrogant telling God how to do His business. He is talking about the theologians and preachers who add their words to the scriptures, not prophets acting under the authority of God.

Edited November 10, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Jesus and Satan brothers (rev)

Evil did not exist anywhere until the creation of Satan. The teaching that Satan is a creation of Christ, is blasphemy that He brought evil into the world.

Christ is not the creator of Satan nor evil.

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Evil did not exist until the creation of Satan, as you would say. Greed, pride, envy, hate did not exist, did they?. Satan did not have the power of creation.

It was an integral part of his inner being, his make up, his mind, his emotions. Where did those thoughts and emotions originate? How, who, and when were they created?

You criticise us for our beliefs so let's hear you stand up for yours.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Temple found in the bible

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We accept all the Word of God, including the Bible and modern revelation.

Regarding  the gnosis ==>>

What EXACTLY did He teach them during those 40 days? Did he simply repeat the Sermon on the Mount 5,000 times? Forty days is a very long time to be teaching.

Well, we get clues from the apostles.  Peter tells us,

For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
Billions of God's children have never even heard of Christ -- Peter tells us that they will also have that opportunity for salvation.

And Paul,
1 Cor[40] There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
[41] There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
[42] So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
[43] It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
[44] It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

He tells us that the Christians did baptisms for the dead, Christ having taught that baptism is necessary for salvation. 

The there is  Christ's  promise to Peter, 
And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
That promise was then fulfilled  and the ordinances could then be performed.

There are those who call these “secrets”, or gnosis, and,  as Christ said, “it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.” They are indeed sacred, and Christ has commanded us to keep them from the world but the hints are in the teachings of the apostles after the priesthood authority, the key to unlock (perform) those ordinances.

Edited November 17, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Joseph Smith, blah blah blah

 

Why don't you expose other prophets ==

MOSES -- used a mystical staff that magicians also used which could transform into a serpent.

Killed an Egyptian hid his body, and fled out of Egypt to escape arrest.

 

PAUL == arrested and threw into prison men, women and children for simply being Christian.

Gave approval and consent for the stoning of Stephen

An angel of light appeared to him on the road to Damascus. His account was written several decades after the event, and the two accounts contradict each other.

He was arrested for being a disorderly person and causing a riot.

 

PETER == took a sword and almost killed a servant, told a lie and denied knowing Christ multiple times.

 

NATHAN == gave false prophecy about David building a temple.

[cdowis]

Since leaving the church, have you actually read the entire Bible? I have read and studied it many times, included the Greek. +++++++++++++ A study from the Pew Research Center shows that Mormons score among the highest of all religion groups in their knowledge of Christianity, the Bible and other religious information. ... In the study, Mormons scored higher than any other group in questions about the Bible and Christianity. Church members are often asked whether Latter-day Saints use the Bible. The Bible is one of the foundational volumes of scripture used in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. See also http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=50374273&itype=CMSID for the details/

[SpiritDragon]

37 minutes ago, cdowis said:

Since leaving the church, have you actually read the entire Bible? I have read and studied it many times, included the Greek. +++++++++++++ A study from the Pew Research Center shows that Mormons score among the highest of all religion groups in their knowledge of Christianity, the Bible and other religious information. ... In the study, Mormons scored higher than any other group in questions about the Bible and Christianity. Church members are often asked whether Latter-day Saints use the Bible. The Bible is one of the foundational volumes of scripture used in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. See also http://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=50374273&itype=CMSID for the details/

I don't think your link is working as intended.

 

[cdowis]

>>preaching another Gospel

 

There are those who declare that the false  "another gospel" began with the visit of an angel of light -- that our mouth alone will save us. James tried to refute this false gospel -- faith without works is dead, and dead faith cannot save anyone

Paul gave TWO accounts of his vision and contradicted each other. How long afterward was his account written in Acts == many years later.

[cdowis]

del

Edited November 26, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Did the gates of hell prevail over Christ when He DIED on the cross, and His DEAD body lay in the tomb for THREE DAYS? For those three days, did the gates of hell prevail over Christ?

The gates of hell did not prevail over Christ, and not over the church during the time it was in apostasy, when the apostles and prophets were no longer on the earth. Even as Christ was resurrected from the tomb, the church was restored in our day. Read again

Eph 4: [11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

[12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

[13] **Till we all come in the unity of the faith** and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

[14] That we henceforth be no more children, **tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive**

 

 

Without the living apostles and prophets, the church "lay in the tomb" and blown about by every wind of doctrine.

Those prophets and apostles have been called by Christ in our day and restored to the church.

 

The Bible says it, I believe it. Christ fulfilled His promise. Hallelujah!

Edited November 22, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Elder Gerard Addresses NAACP National Convention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHzZe3KAxkw&t=43s

 

First Presidency and NAACP Leaders Call for Greater Civility, Racial Harmony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzb2R6JTVw&t=64s

 

LDS/NAACP Unity Luncheon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqXnTlKKcJ8

 

Church Growing Rapidly in Africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMtQj54wDrc

 

Mormons Donating 400,000 Trees to Haiti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrWZKDWfG8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxrWZKDWfG8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfLgTIQiEbA

 

Mormons in Sierra Leon -- "It was a miracle"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQMlDAgVvEs&t=2s

 

Edited November 23, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Joseph Smith... blah blah blah

 

Why don't you expose other prophets ==

MOSES -- used a mystical staff that magicians also used which could transform into a serpent.

Killed an Egyptian hid his body, and fled out of Egypt to escape arrest.

 

PAUL == arrested and threw into prison men, women and children for simply being Christian.

Gave approval and consent for the stoning of Stephen

An angel of light appeared to him on the road to Damascus. His account was written several decades after the event, and the two accounts contradict each other.

He was arrested for being a disorderly person and causing a riot.

 

PETER == took a sword and almost killed a servant, told a lie and denied knowing Christ multiple times.

 

NATHAN == gave false prophecy about David building a temple.

Edited November 23, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

The Book of Mormon text -- grammar and vocabulary, is based on Early Modern English, about a century earlier than the KJV.

For details

https://youtu.be/oHJzY_9RZ4E

 

 

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/71061-skousen-carmack-lecture-take-aways/

During the thirty years Royal Skousen has been working on the Book of Mormon Critical Text Project, he has discovered certain words and phrases that appear on the surface to be either ungrammatical or stylistically unusual. Some critics have claimed that these phrases are Joseph Smith’s dialect mixed with a crude imitation of the language of the King James Bible. But many of these phrases can be tied to Early Modern English, in use from 1530 to 1730. Skousen also identifies phrases from the King James Bible that are skillfully woven into the Book of Mormon text in unexpected ways as well as numerous issues that Protestants argued over during the 1500s and 1600s, such as infant baptism. Although the Book of Mormon contains elements from Early Modern English, it is not an Early Modern English text. It is unique.
https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/language-original-text-book-mormon (premium article)

Edited March 25, 2019 by cdowis

[cdowis]

You're going to hell, blah blah blah blah

 

Hallelujah, I leap for joy!  
Luke 6 [22] Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. [23] Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.

Edited November 24, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

2 Peter 1 [20] Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. [21] For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God [prophets] spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost [revelation].

The Lord has called in our day, not scribes and Pharasees with their lexicons, but living prophets with revelation to interpret the scriptures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MMfh-0XzqQ&t=2s

[cdowis]

Just curious, how do you explain his being able to dictate for hours at a sitting, with his face in a hat -- no lamp, no table, unable to turn pages, no manuscript to read from. Just read the Book of Mormon and see how that "maps to reality" to be able to dictate such a book.

[cdowis]

 

Reformed Egyptian

In the July/August 2018 edition of "Biblical Archaeology Review" on page 33, is an article "Egyptian Papyrus Sheds New Light on Jewish History." The author is Karel van der Toorn. The article is about a papyrus roll discovered in the late 19th century at Luxor (ancient Thebes). It took more than 120 years to decipher the text. It was discovered that Egyptian Demotic script had been used to write Aramaic text! The translation turned out to be three Israelite psalms written about 400BC. This is an example of "Reformed Egyptian" used by Israelites and discovered by non-Mormons!!

Edited December 19, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

He could not translate unless he was in possession of the plates. 
But the plates did not have to be physically present in the hat -- the seer stone could translate the plates remotely,.

Edited November 25, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Many of the denominations are followers of Paul who is the catalyst of those Christians sects today. Paul taught that the mouth could save us (Rom 10:10), which was contrary to what Christ taught and James tried to correct him -- faith without works is dead, and dead faith faith cannot save anyone , the demons confess Christ and tremble.

They continue to teach Paul's other gospel in their churches today rather than what Christ taught -- e.g. baptism (a work) is necessary for salvation (Mark 16:16).

Peter warned us about following the teachings of Paul (2 Peter 3:15-16) but they heed not his warning.

[cdowis]

>>new religious argument Here goes, courtesy of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints ==>>

Matter is eternal. God used existing matter in the creation process, not ex nihlo.

Natural law is also eternal, and God is subject to those laws.
For example, God used the laws of evolution, gravity, quantum physics in the creation process. Chicken and egg. They have always existed in the universe. There was no "first" egg or chicken. (a modified panspermia).

[cdowis]

On 11/18/2018 at 2:44 PM, SpiritDragon said:

I don't think your link is working as intended.

 

Link works fine for me.  Click on "go to site"

Edited November 26, 2018 by cdowis

[cdowis]

Evidence of the Book of Mormon: Complexity 
https://youtu.be/B-XC05DHH2w 
Evidences of the Book of Mormon: Nahom
https://youtu.be/EOPFob0cjfw 
Howlers in the Book of Mormon 
https://youtu.be/z1coYRS-i6M 
Evidences of the Book of Mormon: Translation
https://youtu.be/4LdR7BoI6F0

Book of Mormon geography
https://youtu.be/rZ2WftNwc0k?t=137

Edited December 21, 2018 by cdowis