How can Jesus understand failure?

[Sunday21]

Something I always wondered about answered by Askgramps

https://askgramps.org/savior-understand-fail/

Edited July 23, 2017 by Sunday21

[CV75]

5 hours ago, Sunday21 said:

Something I always wondered about answered by Askgramps

https://askgramps.org/savior-understand-fail/

I would add that He actually did die, and did watch His Church fall into apostasy, and there are those sons of perdition who thoroughly refuse and reject Him. He may not have failed in the long run, or in Himself, but He certainly passed through failure.

[Mike]

Forgive me if I'm blatantly off-topic because I know the OP is directed at the Savior, and I may be guilty of equivocating but the link caused me to ponder what it means to understand failure. Could it be that the answer to the OP is in the possibility that it is we who don't truly understand failure in an earthly and in an eternal context? In our shallowness it's likely that we think of understanding failure in terms of merely experiencing what it is to be denied something we want (or think we want).  But some of us are fortunate to recognize "failure" as growth, opportunities for growth, and sometimes a blessing. It may be that the only understanding (sorrow of sorrows) others of us will ultimately possess is failing to return to the presence of Father. ("For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these: it might have been." --Whittier)

 

Edited July 23, 2017 by Mike

[Snigmorder]

"What could have been done more to my vineyard that I have not done in it?"

I'm not sure failure is the right word for Jesus. Has he failed if someone doesn't choose him? Yet it's still considered a loss by him, do you call it a failure? What can you call it?

I would add that failure can be considered a part of this fallen condition. And Christ knows full well the infirmities of this fallen condition.

Edited July 24, 2017 by Snigmorder