The Sabbath Day

[NightSG]

On 1/25/2018 at 10:07 AM, Traveler said:

I also believe that there will be a Sabbath of 1,000 years.

It better not be F&T Sunday.

OTOH, I'm really looking forward to a ~200 year Sunday afternoon nap.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Traveler said:

Seek a covenant with G-d to keep their Sabbath holy.  For example - If I could not attend any weekly meetings to partake of the sacrament – I would find a way to have access to the sacrament.  First, I would seek help from my bishop, if he could not help – I would seek help from my Stake President.  If my Stake President could not help – I would petition the quorum of Apostles and First Presidency.

Not really an answer. 

You said that someone who works on the Sabbath can't actually keep the Sabbath. 

Take Mirkwood. As cop, he needs to work some Sundays. But he tries to stop by his church to partake of the sacrament.  So the sacrament is taken care of.  

Your response here indicates that as long as you take the sacrament, then you're observing the Sabbath.  This would seem to contradict what you said earlier.

[Traveler]

4 hours ago, Carborendum said:

Not really an answer. 

You said that someone who works on the Sabbath can't actually keep the Sabbath. 

Take Mirkwood. As cop, he needs to work some Sundays. But he tries to stop by his church to partake of the sacrament.  So the sacrament is taken care of.  

Your response here indicates that as long as you take the sacrament, then you're observing the Sabbath.  This would seem to contradict what you said earlier.

Sorry; my mistake - with some exceptions I do not think one's profession prohibits keeping the Sabbath.  In the cases where such profession does inhibit - it is not because they may work on the Sabbath.  Example, hit man for a drug cartel - does not matter if they take the Sabbath off from their work or not.  I believe keeping the Sabbath is an eternal covenant (which is why G-d also keeps the Sabbath) - not a list of do's and dont's and has more to do with loyality, respect and honor of the promise and covenant one makes (in this case) to G-d.  I used the example of the sacrement because I do not see how it is possible to "keep" the Sabbath without honor of the ordanance of the sacrement.  I understand that there can be exceptions - but I would not make myself the exception.

 

The Traveler

[Traveler]

10 hours ago, NightSG said:

It better not be F&T Sunday.

OTOH, I'm really looking forward to a ~200 year Sunday afternoon nap.

 

Please try to stay awake and attentive during the presentation of sacred things.  It seems to me that Jesus is a little disappointed when his disciples are not even trying to pay attention at important moments.  “Awake” is a common scriptural term. 

 

The Traveler

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Traveler said:

Sorry; my mistake - with some exceptions I do not think one's profession prohibits keeping the Sabbath.  In the cases where such profession does inhibit - it is not because they may work on the Sabbath.  Example, hit man for a drug cartel - does not matter if they take the Sabbath off from their work or not.  I believe keeping the Sabbath is an eternal covenant (which is why G-d also keeps the Sabbath) - not a list of do's and dont's and has more to do with loyality, respect and honor of the promise and covenant one makes (in this case) to G-d.  I used the example of the sacrement because I do not see how it is possible to "keep" the Sabbath without honor of the ordanance of the sacrement.

That's understandable.  

But what did you mean by the following?:

On 1/25/2018 at 1:50 PM, Traveler said:

I am thinking that if someone has a career that involves working on Sundays - that such, in any way prohibits them from keeping the Sabbath holy.

[Guest]

On 1/25/2018 at 11:01 AM, zil said:

Perhaps it's more local than I thought.  Also, sometimes I think talks given 13 years ago were given 3 years ago, so my memory could be playing tricks, so to speak.

Well, they finally gave me the lesson plan up to May.  Apparently all fourth Sunday lessons are on the Sabbath.  So, yeah.  I see the emphasis now.

[Traveler]

20 hours ago, Carborendum said:

That's understandable.  

But what did you mean by the following?:

A typo cause from a mortal mental deficient condition - should read as follows:

I am thinking that if someone has a career that involves working on Sundays - that such, in no way prohibits them from keeping the Sabbath holy.

 

The Traveler

[zil]

I'm just gonna put this here, for fun:

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/tg/sabbath?lang=eng&letter=S

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/ex/31.13-17?lang=eng#p12

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13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.

17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/isa/58.13?lang=eng#p12

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13 ¶ If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: